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Title: Japanese Wagering on the Belmont
Post by: jbelfior on May 31, 2017, 12:36:50 PM

Does anyone know if that\'s a co-mingled pool? Could affect the board even in a race of this magnitude.

Could mean the difference between 4-1 and 24-1 on Epicharis (I know,he\'s slow).


Thanks,
Joe B.

Title: Re: Japanese Wagering on the Belmont
Post by: Wamsutta on May 31, 2017, 02:04:38 PM

\"Separate, non-comingled pool\"  http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/221762/epicharis-begins-journey-to-belmont-park

Title: Re: Japanese Wagering on the Belmont
Post by: hellersorr on May 31, 2017, 02:16:25 PM

Bummer.

Title: Re: Japanese Wagering on the Belmont
Post by: jbelfior on May 31, 2017, 07:00:45 PM

Guessing you think he\'s a toss.

Good Luck,
Joe B

Title: Re: Japanese Wagering on the Belmont
Post by: hellersorr on May 31, 2017, 07:45:48 PM

A toss at any odds?  No.  A toss as a huge bet-down, inflating the odds on all other horses?  Yes.

Title: Re: Japanese Wagering on the Belmont
Post by: BitPlayer on June 07, 2017, 12:56:47 PM

I\'m curious whether any of the big players are positioned to take advantage of an arbitrage opportunity if Epicharis is much more heavily bet in Japan than in the US.  Perhaps the takeout is too large to make anything like that feasible.

I remember when our family used to make some of its Triple Crown wagers in New York and others in California when those two pools were separate.

Title: Re: Japanese Wagering on the Belmont
Post by: TempletonPeck on June 07, 2017, 01:48:10 PM

If such players were so positioned, it would likely be tremendously imprudent for them to post same on a public forum.