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General Category => Ask the Experts => Topic started by: bluechip21 on December 06, 2017, 08:51:46 AM
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Hey everyone. Sorry for the novice level question but a friend asked me this the other day and I couldn’t answer it.
With respect to thorograph figures, how much arbitrary input goes into figure making vs a set formula based on the results of a given race?
I was also asked, but gave an answer to this, but curious what others think on the topic, how to do you optimize TG sheets for lightly raced or unraced 2 year olds?
Thanks in advance!
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Bluechip,
I’ll leave the “arbitrary input†question to JB, however if Miff was still posting you would get an interesting point of view.😎
As for 2 yr. olds and lightly raced horses I’ve found quite a few pricy diamonds in the rough on the dam’s side of the page over the years. You’ll not find that data anywhere else but here.....
Good luck,
Frank D.
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To your first question, there are always formulas applied to the relationships within the race. Relative to other races on the day, there is judgement involved. I would like to think it\'s not arbitrary.
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Bluechip-to add to Frank Ds point, in 2 year old races time spent is time rewarded in a difficult area of the game. Any dam that ran less than a 10 as a 2 year old gets a bonus point, less than 7 , 2 bonus points. etc.I will also look at 2d dams since there may have been an unexplained reason the first dam had no 2 year old number. As Frank stated, , TGraph provides a weslth of info re trainer intentions, trainer jockey combo etc. Two year old races are often impossible and can often be guessing games—but patience and hard work can be rewarding.
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2d dams? Where do you get that?
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BT - much of breeding info re 2 year olds on sheets goes back several generations- often 3d and 4 th dams. I assume if not published by TG with respect to a particular horse, it is not available. Jerry or Alan can correct me if Inam mistaken.
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Thanks a lot for the answers everyone. Very much appreciated.
Special thanks to Jerry. As you noted, arbitrary was the wrong word. Thanks for weeding through my obtuseness.
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Now I am confused. The first mare listed on the right is the filly/colts dam and each subsequent horse is an offspring, so a sib(or half sib) of the one in question. Is that what you\'re referring to? If so, have I been reading that wrong all this time?