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Title: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: girly on June 24, 2008, 04:14:13 PM

Bloodhorse  magazine has some pretty graphic pics of the loose shoe with the nail sticking out- I wonder if we will ever know if that was the reason he didn\'t fire. All I know is I couldn\'t run ten yards with a loose heel.

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: TGJB on June 24, 2008, 04:22:56 PM

There\'s always a reason.

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: girly on June 24, 2008, 08:02:09 PM

Tell me more-

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: Boscar Obarra on June 24, 2008, 11:01:06 PM

Jerry, I think you\'ll have to admit that those are a very interesting set of pictures.

  Years ago , without  high resolution images this would have gone undiscovered.

   Assuming this threw BB\'s stride off enough to cause discomfort and Kent D to \'feel\' there was something wrong, it would actually explain the pullup.

   None of this proves BB would have won, but it\'s a world better  than \'he bounced so badly he couldn\'t even finish\'

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: RICH on June 25, 2008, 07:30:02 AM

Girly

He basically meant there is always a reason, except the obvious reason.

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: fkach on June 25, 2008, 07:33:12 AM

Maybe over the course of three races where one horse is actually best in all three (a rare occurrence to begin with), there often is an odd reason/excuse for the loss because there are so many things that can go wrong over a series of three horse races. It doesn\'t have to be all or nothing (all bounces or all legitimate excuses). It can easily (and IMO most likely) be a mix of horses with legitimate excuses and horses that wore down from the demands of the races.

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: miff on June 25, 2008, 09:16:39 AM

Rich,

The only obvious reason is post race detection of injury/illness. All other reasons advanced are pure speculation.


Mike

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: Lost Cause on June 25, 2008, 10:39:51 AM

My Initial reaction was the same as yours Jerry.  But after seeing these new photos I have to say this seems to be a legitimate reason.  Running with a loose shoe has got to cause some kind of discomfort or traction problems..no?..
Anybody know what happens to a horse who runs with a loose shoe?

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: MO on June 25, 2008, 11:03:17 AM

No, but I know what it feels like when a horse steps on my foot.

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: miff on June 25, 2008, 11:18:42 AM

The quarter crack guy said he feels it MAY alter a horses natural gate.

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: jmetro on June 25, 2008, 12:22:36 PM

Lost Cause Wrote:
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> Anybody know what happens to a horse who runs with
> a loose shoe?

No, but I know what happens to a horse ridden by a jockey with a loose screw.

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: fkach on June 25, 2008, 12:24:07 PM

>No, but I know what happens to a horse ridden by a jockey with a loose screw.<

ROTFLMAO. ;-)

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: JR on June 26, 2008, 08:36:58 AM

What happened to the glue-ons?

Title: Re: Did You all see the pic of Big Brown's shoe?
Post by: BitPlayer on June 26, 2008, 08:39:10 AM

Glue-ons were in front.  It was a rear shoe that came loose.