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Title: Derby-mud horses
Post by: justwin on May 02, 2013, 07:53:29 AM

rain should not be a problem for these 5 horses - Oxbow, , Revolutionary, NI, Falling Sky & Orb. Any other thoughts.

Title: Re: Derby-mud horses
Post by: TreadHead on May 02, 2013, 08:20:23 AM

IMLD won a stakes (sprint) in the slop by open lengths, put with his running style, I don\'t see any reason he wouldn\'t like it

Title: Re: Derby-mud horses
Post by: badride123 on May 02, 2013, 09:23:47 AM

Oxbow
Revolutionary
Frac Daddy
Itsmyluckyday
Java War

I think those 5 move up if it becomes \"sloppy\"   Obviously Frac Daddy has other issues besides the condition of track.   Jock, Draw, Distance...  I think thats enough to not use him at all if fast.   The others I will include in my intra race betting.

Title: Re: Derby-mud horses
Post by: RICH on May 02, 2013, 09:25:59 AM

and mylute is the only one with a better sire fig slop vs fast

Title: Re: Derby-mud horses
Post by: badride123 on May 02, 2013, 09:27:42 AM

That Valid Expectations on the bottom of My Lute is really queering me and I want to try to use him a little bit.

Title: Re: Derby-mud horses--Haskin's take
Post by: chrifron on May 02, 2013, 11:41:31 PM

Steve Haskin (who I enjoy reading and watching on Bloodhorse) wrote a column at the beginning of the week regarding wet-track possibnilities.  He rated Mylute\'s pedigree best--just ahead of Palace Malice and Orb. Haskin is heavily into pedigrees going back a number of generations on both sides--a true old-school professor of the game.

He also stated that Lines of Battle would be worth a look only on a wet track. Other horses--\"A sloppy track also should not hurt the chances of REVOLUTIONARY, OVERANALYZE, VERRAZANO, OXBOW, and BLACK ONYX\".

Haskin and Lenny Shulman (a former college roommate of mine decades ago) have a very entertaining video program online every two weeks, and I like their views on the sport--they both truly love the thoroughbred horse and the beauty of the game.