Chuckles' go to horse

[bobphilo]

TGAB, Apparently the unfunny Clown spits on you and your censorship and now launced another more vicious racist rant. Deal with him - please.

[Bally Ache]

I don\'t think even Secretariat could have beaten Fager at seven furlongs.

Here\'s a sucker bet I won on him from a horseplayer friend of mine:  I think it was the Vosburgh where, for some reason,there were seven or eight entered against him.  I guess the others were running for second or third money.  Fager figured to be about 2/5.

I told my friend I would make an even money bet with him.  I would take Fager and he could have the rest of the field.  To my surprise he went for it. Even after the race (which Fager won) my friend was insisting that he had made a good bet, until I pointed out to him that he had just given me even money on a natural 2/5 shot.  If Fager lost it made no difference to me which of the other hroses beat him.

[alm]

I hope you boxed that ticket...Go For Wand went down as Bayakoa was passing her.  Unfortunate, but the best horse that day ended up winning.

[alm]

Dr. Fager may indeed have been the greatest, but the statement you quote was made by Buddy Delp about Spectacular Bid.

[richiebee]

Alm:

   ... and the advantage to having Bayakoa and GFW boxed would have been...?

   Yes it was Bud and Bid. Sad that SB\'s on track brilliance was kind of
tarnished by a spotty career as a stud, that his Triple Crown hopes were
pricked by a pin. Also kind of easy for his accomplishments to get lost, having
raced at the end of a decade which produced 3 Triple Crown winners.

   I seem to recall he was horse of the year 2YO, 3YO, 4YO. He performed well
at many different tracks and distances

[alm]

I wasn\'t trying to be a wiseguy, but I think one would prefer to save a winning ticket.  I was at the race that day with my godawful huge binoculars in what would normally be considered a lousy seat: up high at the head of the stretch.

What I did gain from that position was a great(?) view of the tragedy.  Maybe a close examination of the race at that point, on film, would reveal what I saw.  Just as Bayakoa cruised up alongside Go For Wand, the young filly looked to her challenger on the right and soon after took the fatal step.

I think it spooked her to be challenged at all, especially when she was in a full drive.  She didn\'t have a lot left and probably took a misstep while trying to surge.  It was scary.

I also had the luck of a winning ticket on Foolish Pleasure in the Ruffian match, so I\'ve benefitted from two of the greatest mishaps in racing.  I didn\'t enjoy winning either time.

[magicnight]

Richie,

I don\'t think Bid was HOY as a 2YO. I think the only 2YOs to win HOY were Secretariat and Favorite Trick.

Can anybody confirm that?

I do know that Bid turned all white in his later years, which were spent covering a few mares a year at an undistinguished upstate NY farm. Sic transit gloria.

Bob

[magicnight]

Alm;

I think your memory fails you here. My recollection is that Bayakoa and Go For Wand were basically in a match race, ding-donging it side-by-side for about 7 furlongs until they hit the 8th pole.

Bob

[richiebee]

Magic:

You are correct I am probably thinking of 2YO Eclipse Award.
 
1978 HOY was of course Seattle Slew, who was so fast even a Cruguetman could
win on him.

[fkach]

I didn\'t have it boxed. I don\'t think Bayakoa was going by or even inching up (at least not yet). If you had a good angle could you see it well.  

I saved the ticket for the memory, not for some kind of financial value etc... GFW and Seattle Slew were special for me because I picked them out as special very early and they delivered.