Dwyer Stakes

[ronwar]

Some of those are not doing to bad in the breeding shed as well

[gowand]

richie:
Unfortunately DA\'s as we affectionately called it is no longer in operation.  If you go downtown at the spa now all you can get is 10.00 glasses of wine or appletinis.

[richiebee]

Gowand:

Ouch. I\'ve been told I had some wild times in that place.

[davidrex]

RONWAR,
If ever there was a justification to retire ones\' colt and make BIG bucks in the breeding barn....that list just says it all.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Jimbo, I\'m not in the habit of going into my views regarding races outside of the Triple Series or the occasional race that I believe needs to be revisited. This years Belmont stakes for example. When the time arrives for renewing efforts I\'ll discuss how the earlier race applies. Not so much to project a winner, but to point out how the earlier effort was misapprehended. In that analysis though if one pays attention you\'ll probably discern where my wagers went.

I could pull previous posts regarding my disdain for Commentator, but suffice it to say I\'ve always considered him vastly over rated and a juicy target. I always take shots at him at even money or less in the better company. I changed my mind, heres some posts don\'t miss the ones I noted.

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,33334,33334#msg-33334

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,31580,31580#msg-31580

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,31218,31229#msg-31229

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,31209,31216#msg-31216

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,31209,31212#msg-31212

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,31209,31225#msg-31225

Don\'t miss this one. What follows really illustrates what I think of that Pig:

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,22508,22630#msg-22630

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,22508,22618#msg-22618

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,22508,22606#msg-22606

Don\'t miss this one either\"

http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,22508,22597#msg-22597

 jimbo66 Wrote:
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> Michael,
>
> Good point, although I am guessing that AGS\'s race
> yesterday is probably a 2 point top or so.
> Sightseeing and Nobiz Like Shobiz have pretty
> consistent figures and unless Jerry gives them
> both big bounces, AGS is in the negative 2 range
> or so, which makes him competitive with STreet
> Sense and Curlin.  We\'ll see in the Jim Dandy.  I
> read that Tiz Wonderful is pointing for the Jim
> Dandy as well.  He will have been off a long time,
> but this was a very talented looking horse as
> well.
>
> Chuckles,
>
> Great call by Michael on High Finance and poor
> call by me.  However, your sarcastic post is
> unnecessary.  If one believed Commentator was
> unbeatable yesterday, which I did, the race was
> unbettable.  With YOUR HINDSIGHT today, of course
> I am wrong.  It would be nice to see you make a
> call BEFORE a race, like Michael did with High
> Finance and others on this board do regularly,
> instead of the usual sarcasm after the races and
> denigrating comments about the horses that ran.  I
> am going to vomit if I read one more time that
> Rags to Riches AMBUSHED the colts in the Belmont
> and didn\'t win \"on the square\".  She did what 4 of
> the last 5 belmont winners have done, had 5 weeks
> spacing into the Belmont.  It is an edge, but
> doesn\'t take away from her performance.  She has a
> good shot to be \"great\", if she isn\'t prematurely
> retired and she doesn\'t need to beat the boys
> again to be great, although we all would like to
> see her try it!  I suspect that by the end of the
> year, this 3 year old crop is going to look pretty
> strong.  We already know about Curlin and Street
> Senses.  Any Given Saturday looks to have
> potential, Tiz Wonderful might be good when he
> gets back, and there are some others as well.
> With the lousy older horses we have, we might see
> a replay of the Breeders Cup Classic back when
> Tiznow won it the 1st time, as I believe the 3
> year olds finished in the top 4 spots or so.  (and
> FuPeg the favored 3 year old wasn\'t even in one
> those spots)

[Michael D.]

Chuckles_the_Clown2 Wrote:
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> Jimbo, I\'m not in the habit of going into my views
> regarding races outside of the Triple Series or
> the occasional race that I believe needs to be
> revisited.

huh?

you were firmly against AGS, the easy winner of the Dwyer (the very winner Jim called death and taxes).

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Michael D. Wrote:
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> Chuckles_the_Clown2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jimbo, I\'m not in the habit of going into my
> views
> > regarding races outside of the Triple Series or
> > the occasional race that I believe needs to be
> > revisited.
>
> huh?
>
> you were firmly against AGS, the easy winner of
> the Dwyer (the very winner Jim called death and
> taxes).

I didn\'t say I was against AGS. I said he was no better than the others. The odds made the race unplayable, but Jimbo was right. He was better than the others.

AGS and Commentator are by the same sire if I\'m not mistaken. AGS hasn\'t come close to Commentators figures, but hes more horse. Commentator has more negative 5\'s than Carter has pills, but none of those Negative 5\'s are legitimate and thats why he is a perpetual target.