Buck,
I concur with your thoughts on Kip and the others.
I also wanted to point out that I own part of a horse with them and even though the horse didn\'t live up to expectations, they were nothing short of tremendously professional in their dealings with me.
They own a majority share of the horse so it was their right to call all of the shots but they always consulted with me about where to run her, when to retire her and ultimately to whom to breed her.
I have made my feelings about Dutrow and Ivaronne very public here and I still feel that way but the business people who manage the behind the scenes operations for these guys are class acts.
In an ironic twist of fate, the mare is going to be breed to Big Brown. So, after all of that time I spent rooting against him this spring, now I am his biggest fan in the breeding shed. Funny twist.