Holy crap

[TGJB]

Just saw Lady Eli\'s time vs the colts, and that\'s aside from ground.

[fasteddie]

The best turf filly since Goldikova, and would be a serious HOTY candidate if it were not for AP. There is no in the states that will beat her in the F&M Turf. Natural cruising speed, and closes like a freight train. There may not be a turf male that can touch her either!

[Tavasco]

Not to take anything away from the 4/5 winner Lady Eli who ran the last quarter of a 1+1/4 race in :23 which impresses me but the colts dawdled along 3-4 seconds slower (which burnt up 2/1 Bobo) getting thru the points of call and came home the last 1/4 in :22! As for AP, the likely HOY, he could only manage :26.5 @ CD.

I doubt if Lady Eli is 3+ seconds (some 15+ lengths) faster than Force The Pass if they run in the same race and they may.

Lady Eli deserves her superlatives, but to be safe let\'s keep it to she may be the best three year old U.S. turf horse which I surmise is what you meant.

American Pharaoh may meet up with Lady Eli but not till next year at the earliest and not on the track.

Last but not least Kent D. must be spending too much time with Mikey. More than a couple of questionable Jockey performances. I guess that\'s not unusual but several seemed foolish.

[miff]

Raw time of Bel Oaks 1.89 seconds (11 lengths)
 faster than Bel Derby.Derby\'s final half mile was 1.78 faster than Oaks.Ridiculously slow pace in Derby slowed boys final time.

Beyer made adjustment for pace giving Lady ELi a 98 and Force The Pass 92, a difference of only app 4 lengths, in spite of the 11 lengths difference based on raw time. No adj for ground loss, of course.

[MonmouthGuy]

Bolo vanned off. Took bad step and jock pulled him up in stretch,

[richiebee]

Tavasco Wrote:
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> Not to take anything away from the 4/5 winner Lady
> Eli who ran the last quarter of a 1+1/4 race in
> :23 which impresses me but the colts dawdled along
> 3-4 seconds slower (which burnt up 2/1 Bobo)
> getting thru the points of call and came home the
> last 1/4 in :22! As for AP, the likely HOY, he
> could only manage :26.5 @ CD.

The fact that you are comparing raw final 1/4 times from a 10 furlong dirt
race and a 10 furlong turf race proves that you really should spend more time
on the Rag Board along with Racemaven and Vito, two very sharp handicappers
and racing fans who spend too much energy trying to convince everyone that
Lloyd Braun (Kenny Sherman) is perfectly sane.

 
> Last but not least Kent D. must be spending too
> much time with Mikey. More than a couple of
> questionable Jockey performances. I guess that\'s
> not unusual but several seemed foolish.

I love it when people who have never donned a \"caliente\" style safety helmet
criticize race riders. Folks on both boards all over Rosario lately; I was
surprised to see that in Saturday\'s DRF that Rosario is winning at Belmont at
a 17% clip (Castellano is winning at a 19% rate); reading the boards one would
think that Rosario is struggling to get mounts and winning at a 10% rate.

In winter/spring 2013, Rosario was riding eventual Fla Derby/Derby/Preakness
winner Orb. Rosario was riding first call for Ramsey/Maker when that tandem was
winning at a ridiculous clip, especially at Keeneland. People ready to crown
him King then; now two years later, not riding a champion, not riding first
call for an outfit that let the Genie out of the bottle, people are ready to
count Rosario out.

As to the \"Wide Mikey\" stuff I rate it right up there with an \"Ollie\" Sherman
\"stewards\" rant ... cheap whine made from sour grapes.

Looking at Johnny V\'s ride on Tonalist, lets all agree that JV probably
miscalculated Coach Inge\'s early pace (it was fast and JV might have thought
CI was getting away with slow fractions)(CI was very game) and moved too early.
Irregardless (regardless?) Tonalist was on even terms with FNX at the eighth
pole; JV was delivering left handed body blows. When FNX came out only
slightly, JV went to the right hand, but seemed reluctant to strike Tonalist
right handed, instead waving the whip near Tonalist\'s ears.

I do not know if Tonalist is adverse to being struck right handed, but I would
love to know why a horse with Tonalist\'s resume constantly has his
equipment(blinkers) changed...

[Fairmount1]

Richiebee,

SLU Journalism Prof that was my favorite professor ever insisted to me after several uses in writing that it is \"regardless\" not \"irregardless.\"  

You might be interested to know that there was a mini-eruption as Rafael struck to the front in the Queen\'s Plate today among backside workers watching in the Fairmount simulcast area.  And then everyone was abuzz with excitement as if he is their best friend including tellers and FP workers. Meanwhile, minutes later I lose the pick 4 at Gulf to Wolfson by a head.....

I think last Friday Rafael rode at Churchill in the afternoon and made it back to Collinsville that night to ride a winner.  Then, Belmont yesterday and Woodbine today obviously.  Quite a journey you and Wesley have sent him on.

In other Fairmount news you (and others) might find interesting.....A few Tuesday\'s ago, Eoin Harty ran a Godolphin firster in a measley $8k MSW race at Fairmount Park.  Horse ran 6th of 6th all the way around the track at 4-5.  No one understands what the logic was there at all coming to FP for a dirt MSW race instead of Indiana, Prairie, Churchill or now Ellis.

[richiebee]

Fairmount1 Wrote:
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> Richiebee,
>

 
> In other Fairmount news you (and others) might
> find interesting.....A few Tuesday\'s ago, Eoin
> Harty ran a Godolphin firster in a measley $8k MSW
> race at Fairmount Park.  Horse ran 6th of 6th all
> the way around the track at 4-5.  No one
> understands what the logic was there at all coming
> to FP for a dirt MSW race instead of Indiana,
> Prairie, Churchill or now Ellis.

As I think I related to you, back in the mid 1970s, at about the same time that
Harbor View Farms was campaigning some dominant runners such as Affirmed and
Its in The Air, they had a string of about eight horses with a man named Koonce
(sp?) stabled at Fairmount; the stable rider was Marcel Campos. The famous
\"flamingo\" pink silks, which Affirmed carried to the Triple Crown, looked very
strange under the lights at forlorn Fairmount Park. Harbor View also had a
string up in Detroit, when that city supported thoroughbred racing at two
tracks, with Laz Barerra\'s brother, Guillermo.

Regarding the Godolphin/Harty maiden at FP, certainly an interesting choice for
the debut, wonder if this horse changed hands and the racing office did not
pick up the ownership change. But if the horse was indeed wearing the famous
blue Godolphin silks, they also must have looked rather odd under the lights at
Collinsville.

[Fairmount1]

The name of the horse is In Stitches.  Medaglia D\'Oro out of Hystericalady.  

I think that when Affirmed won the Triple Crown, Barerra\'s brother entered a horse in the Preakness instead of running in the Illinois Derby as originally intended.  Laz was annoyed for sure even having a horse as good as Affirmed.  Reminded me a bit of Lukas taking the \"former\" Zayat Mr. Z and entering him against Pharoah in Baltimore.

[jbelfior]

Yep---Track Reward. Al Barrera. Went off at about 90-1 and got beat about 90 lengths. Good thing it wasn\'t Oscar. Affirmed may have got beat. Lol

Good Luck,
Joe B