Biancone's Barn

[alm]

With the suspension of Biancone\'s miracle worker vet, are there still doubters out there regarding the sport\'s dark underbelly?  Or are those of us who have raised the subject still under the suspicion of being \'bad losers?\'

[Street Sense]

alm Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> With the suspension of Biancone\'s miracle worker
> vet, are there still doubters out there regarding
> the sport\'s dark underbelly?  Or are those of us
> who have raised the subject still under the
> suspicion of being \'bad losers?\'

I\'ve started calling a duck what looks like a duck.

The biggest duck in racing is Coolmore and those associated with Coolmore.  Tabor was banned for life back in the 70s for paying off jockeys.  Being a bigwig, he got the life ban reduced to a few years.  Coolmore\'s jockey in Europe is currently indicted and going to trial any day now for race-fixing.  One of their trainers in the U.S. (Biancone) was banned for life from Hong Kong and has been caught with highly illegal substances and from what I hear, will be getting a substantial if not life ban from the Kentucky Racing Commission soon.  These are all indisputable FACTS.

THen we have rumors/opinion.  Another of Coolmore\'s trainers (Pletcher) is suspected by many to not be clean.  That trainer uses as a vet (Allday) the man considered to be the current day Harthill.  Many trainers, owners, and press people believe that this year\'s Belmont was fixed by Tabor and his two jocks in the race. Then there\'s the Green Monkey debacle where their sales fraud came back to bite them.      

No bad loser here.  Just tired of racing not getting the ducks out of racing.  It doesn\'t take any real genius here to catch these guys and get rid of them, just the will to do it.

[RICH]

Biancone\'s time may be limited, why not plunge deeper into the abyss, and dope them all. He could be banned for years, may need to stockpile some extra cash. Nows the time, how\'s he been doing the last couple weeks?

[Street Sense]

RICH Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Biancone\'s time may be limited, why not plunge
> deeper into the abyss, and dope them all. He could
> be banned for years, may need to stockpile some
> extra cash. Nows the time, how\'s he been doing the
> last couple weeks?

I think his suspension ends today.

[richiebee]

Street Sense Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The biggest duck in racing is Coolmore and those
> associated with Coolmore.  Tabor was banned for
> life back in the 70s for paying off jockeys.
> Being a bigwig, he got the life ban reduced to a
> few years.  Coolmore\'s jockey in Europe is
> currently indicted and going to trial any day now
> for race-fixing.  One of their trainers in the
> U.S. (Biancone) was banned for life from Hong Kong
> and has been caught with highly illegal substances
> and from what I hear, will be getting a
> substantial if not life ban from the Kentucky
> Racing Commission soon.  These are all
> indisputable FACTS.


After saddling 3 non winning entrants on this past Sunday\'s Belmont card, Todd
Pletcher is 1/16 for the first 2 weeks of the Belmont meet. Add this to TAP\'s
Saratoga 13/125 slate, and some simple \"ciphering\" shows the TAP barn is 14/141
for the period 7/25- 9/16. That is just slightly less than a 10% strike rate.

I believe that the Biancobra barn was raided on June 22. I do not keep accurate
records. What was the record of TAP\'s barn between 6/22 and 7/25?

I have too much respect for the scientific method to state, without facts, that
TAP was taking an edge and stopped abruptly sometime around the end of June, co-
inciding with L\'Affaire Biancone. And TAP deserves the benefit of the doubt, the
benefit of being presumed innocent, because his record has been untarnished but
for one positive which I will call harmless for the sake of argument.

In the interest of the scientific method, and to balance out a lot of the rumor
and innuendo tolerated on this board out of our host\'s respect for free speech,
I will initiate a thread entitled \"Reasons (Scientific Method)\"

>
> THen we have rumors/opinion.  Another of
> Coolmore\'s trainers (Pletcher) is suspected by
> many to not be clean.  That trainer uses as a vet
> (Allday) the man considered to be the current day
> Harthill.  Many trainers, owners, and press people
> believe that this year\'s Belmont was fixed by
> Tabor and his two jocks in the race. Then there\'s
> the Green Monkey debacle where their sales fraud
> came back to bite them.      
>
> No bad loser here.  Just tired of racing not
> getting the ducks out of racing.  It doesn\'t take
> any real genius here to catch these guys and get
> rid of them, just the will to do it.

[TGJB]

Richie-- what\'s REALLY interesting is that while the rest of his barn went ice cold, the graded stake horses kept running their numbers.

Which leaves open the question of what to do with his filly in today\'s stake, who has 3 big ones, followed by a stinker at Saratoga...

[RICH]

street , the vet just got 5yrs suspension for the cobra venom incident, his penalty is right on the horizon

[stillinger]

TGJB Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Richie-- what\'s REALLY interesting is that while
> the rest of his barn went ice cold, the graded
> stake horses kept running their numbers.
>
> Which leaves open the question of what to do with
> his filly in today\'s stake, who has 3 big ones,
> followed by a stinker at Saratoga...
This is what\'s on my mind right now,
and what the heck is Rusty been thinkin\' with his filly,
since her maiden, Dream Rush? LT? I need a job placing for him.
I think CT will run, but I can\'t bet.

[stillinger]

CT didn\'t break, ran in a couple short \"spots\". Glad I am scared.