Derby Figures

[Silver Charm]

When are they going to be released? What is the hold-up? Looked like a pretty simple day.

Dry track all day, almost no wind, tons of routes to compare to.

[TGJB]

You begrudge me taking yesterday off to play golf?

[Silver Charm]

Figured they would have already been done by Monday.

Its only your reputation on the line.

I mean how hard was/is it?

2:01 and 3/5, four wide trip, 23 mile per hour stretch headwind.

Negative 8 for Big Brown and start working backwards.

[smalltimer]

Would seem if it\'s that easy you should just do it for yourself?

[JR]

What\'d you shoot?

[ajkreider]

-1 for Ragozin, reportedly.

[miff]

TG,Beyer, Rags substantially agree on BB\'s derby fig.

[jbelfior]

yep; confirmed on Brisnet.....lowest Derby # ever given by Rags.


Good Luck,
Joe B.

[big18741]

smalltimer Wrote:
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> Would seem if it\'s that easy you should just do it
> for yourself?


Maybe not.He was only off by 6+ lengths.



Both Jerry and the DOC advisors got it right.They\'d have wrecked him going Rebel then Arkansas to the Derby.

Instead,they have a healthy horse,200k from the Derby,and a chance to run back to that 0 with 5 weeks into the Belmont.

Recapturetheglory interesting in the Preakness.Does he pair up on only two weeks or bounce? The answer to that is a big piece to the exotics puzzle next Saturday IMO.His father ran second in this race.

[Dana666]

That\'s a meaningless number in my mind; that race was completely fake. The track was like cement, most of the horses wouldn\'t even run on it, they protected themselves. Didn\'t anyone find it strange that there were so many blazing speed horses and the pace was super slow? Please, Big Brown might be a good horse, but the fastest Derby horse of all time -- yeah right. The filly was so brave she killed herself by extending herself over that surface, and Big Brown, hell, he probably couldn\'t even feel his legs. That track was a disgrace -- it reminds me of the old days at Santa Anita (before cushion) when it would rain and ten claimers would run 108 for six furlongs -- you\'d never see them again -- they\'d be completely ruined after that. Why is it that on big days track crews have this need to speed up the surfaces?

[tmon]

As mentioned before there was a 20+MPH head wind in the stretch. Which means on the backstretch it was a tailwind. Which means all the the splits on the sprints were faster then normal. But it also means the KD runners ran into the headwinds twice.

[TGJB]

97 at Patriot Hills, a pretty tough track. Good for me, since I hadn\'t picked up a club since Jan 1. More importantly, I came out of the race relatively sound-- 2 of the last 3 times I played were followed by scoping of one knee, then the other.

[smalltimer]

big,
I was being facetious.  Silver Charm laid it out as though everything was cut and dried and what was the holdup, etc., etc.
I figure, let the guy who makes the figures, get it right, even if it takes a bit longer.