Miscellaneous

[Jim]

HP, I have a pretty good idea of what Billy G and Nebel make and I\'d much rather have Nebel\'s salary. Asied from what they make, from what I know of Nebel, he\'s a millionaire and doesn\'t give a flying whoop what people think of him - least of all you.

Jerry, smart move, good luck to you. Believe it or not, I have never bad-mouthed you or your product at the track. Hopefully we can discuss something less controversial next time.

[HP]

I\'m glad Nebel is rich and I understand he doesn\'t care what I think. More power to him. You, however, have seen fit to respond many times. I guess us lackeys should stick together. HP

[Jim]

Good one HP!!! There\'s hope for you yet.

Peace.

[fastspeed]

Jim,

When I went to Turkey on vacation I was a millionaire too for a little while (in Turkish Liras of course).  I think I met a few Nebels there too.  Not that I would dare think you would omit any relevant details in the interest of brevity (was it Calder or Gulfstream, I\'ve forgotten again).


P.S. I don\'t disagree with the jist of your messages, but you\'d have to agree that as long as you\'re on this board, you\'re gonna get some stick.

[AT]

Jerry,

Sorry for the late response, I\'m back to a weekend player for a few months and haven\'t had time to read the board.

No I didn\'t read Jim\'s post-- or at least not all the way through. My points were in regard to the original post where the thread started. That\'s where you or someone from TG talked about the seminar and made it a point to bad-mouth Ragozin.

All I\'m saying is you could have skipped that part, talked about how well it went for you guys etc. I\'m just suggesting that you take the high road, that\'s all.

I\'ve been turned around on TG because of the quality of the product and your customer service. Letters from laywers, he-said, he said arguments, anti-ragozin diatribes etc.  have all had nothing to do with it and I doubt I\'m much different than most people.

You\'re dealing with a pretty small niche market for these type of figures-- it takes a real commitment to learn how to use them effectively and few horse-players are willing to put in the time to do so-- and I just think you\'d be better offer focusing upon the postives.

The way I look at it, the ragozin boys unwillingness to provide even DECENT customer service will undoubtably be their deathnell eventually and IMHO, you\'re much more likely to pick up their disgruntled users if you accent the postives of your product and stay out of the fray as much as a possible.


It\'s just a suggestion based entirely on selfish reasons. I want to make sure one of you is still standing in 5, 10, 15, 20 years and I just think TG is more likely to be that company.

[TGJB]

AT wrote:
>
> Jerry,
>
> Sorry for the late response, I\'m back to a weekend player for
> a few months and haven\'t had time to read the board.
>
> No I didn\'t read Jim\'s post-- or at least not all the way
> through. My points were in regard to the original post where
> the thread started. That\'s where you or someone from TG
> talked about the seminar and made it a point to bad-mouth
> Ragozin.
>
> All I\'m saying is you could have skipped that part, talked
> about how well it went for you guys etc. I\'m just suggesting
> that you take the high road, that\'s all.
>
> I\'ve been turned around on TG because of the quality of the
> product and your customer service. Letters from laywers,
> he-said, he said arguments, anti-ragozin diatribes etc.  have
> all had nothing to do with it and I doubt I\'m much different
> than most people.
>
> You\'re dealing with a pretty small niche market for these
> type of figures-- it takes a real commitment to learn how to
> use them effectively and few horse-players are willing to put
> in the time to do so-- and I just think you\'d be better offer
> focusing upon the postives.
>
> The way I look at it, the ragozin boys unwillingness to
> provide even DECENT customer service will undoubtably be
> their deathnell eventually and IMHO, you\'re much more likely
> to pick up their disgruntled users if you accent the postives
> of your product and stay out of the fray as much as a possible.
>
>
> It\'s just a suggestion based entirely on selfish reasons. I
> want to make sure one of you is still standing in 5, 10, 15,
> 20 years and I just think TG is more likely to be that company.

TG--I make no promises, but I hear you. Sometimes it\'s not a business decision--as Butch Lenzini said when one of his horses lost at 1-5, \"it just goeos to show my horse is human\".