Fun with Move Up Trainers

[richiebee]

I present for the board\'s perusal The Truth and KG, Bay Shore, Race 9, AQ.

Possible explanations for the rather alarming move up off the RudyRod claim:

1) Those Successful Appeal horses really improve between September and November
of their 2YO season.

2) Hated Monmouth, loves AQ.

3) Really appreciated the weight off/ bug rider.

4) His trainer wakes up really early in the morning.

5) His owner has traditionally retained only trainers who feed their horses the
very best hay, oats and water.

Will take a page from Silver Charm\'s book and note that Saturday should be a fun
day of racing and sport. Thoroughbred racing returns to New York after a long
hiatus, Keeneland puts on its customary strong weekend card, there are a couple of
hoop games featuring fine and upstanding NCAA student athletes. (Why are they
called student athletes? I never recall seeing them taking notes on the bench.)

Think I will concentrate on Santa Anita, which has become the winter home of my
disposable income. There is a maiden running on the turf who was produced by a
millionaire NY bred slow rat turf mare who earned most of her money by winning the
Yaddo Stakes at the Spa 5 straight years. This colt was 30/1 last out, finishing
a troubled ninth in his first turf try.

[Fairmount1]

There is a running joke where I play the races when \"supertrainers\'\" horses begin to pull away by open lengths in the stretch especially first off the claim....

During that stretch drive, you will hear someone in the room saying \"[insert supertrainer\'s name] just shows more LOVE to his horses and CARES for them more.\"  And others will chime in, yes, it is the \"love\" that [supertrainer] uses.  Of course, I think there is a \"superowner\" whose horses do the same thing. He has won a few owners titles at Arlington and now bases his operation in Florida mostly.  It stuns me the success he has.  Guess its that hyperbaric chamber treatment he uses so well although I think NYRA doesn\'t allow chamber horses to run until 7 days have passed since being oxygened up.  Is this correct Miff?

Best of luck on the day.

[sighthound]

Hyperbaric oxygen chambers add \"extra oxygen\" by the increased pressure causing oxygen molecules to be carried free in the plasma, in addition to being carried on hemoglobin molecules in red blood cells as is normal.

That extra oxygen is gone soon as the plasma equilibrulates after removal from the increased pressure within the chamber.

Hyperbaric oxygen treatments are used for increasing the oxygen available to tissues to help repair them.  It\'s benefit is greater, faster, better tissue recovery and repair (why it\'s used in both human and equine medicine)  There is no residual \"extra oxygen capacity\" on race day (as one would expect from EPO, for example).

[miff]

Hyperbaric Chambers and ESWT(shock wave equipment) have been under scrutiny in NY and must be registered. In their never ending quest to stop the moves ups, the regulators in NY are trying everything.Now fooling with legal meds, pushing the time further out that they can be administered.

Meanwhile,the same guys win at the same percentages,for the most part.

[Rick B.]

richiebee Wrote:
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> Think I will concentrate on Santa Anita, which has
> become the winter home of my disposable income.

So...goodbye NY move-up trainers Dutrow and Rudy R.,
and hello SoCal move-up trainers O\'Neill, Mitchell,
and (relatively new guy on the scene) Belvoir.

Improvement? Or simply akin to New Underwear Day in
the Russian Army?

[TGJB]

I was standing 4 feet from a guy who trained for that Chicago owner when he said \"By the time they figure out what I\'m using I\'ll be using something else\".

[Boscar Obarra]

I wonder, do they buy their stuff with Bitcoins?

[richiebee]

Rick B. Wrote:
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> richiebee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Think I will concentrate on Santa Anita, which
> has
> > become the winter home of my disposable income.
>
> So...goodbye NY move-up trainers Dutrow and Rudy
> R.,
> and hello SoCal move-up trainers O\'Neill,
> Mitchell,
> and (relatively new guy on the scene) Belvoir.
>
> Improvement? Or simply akin to New Underwear Day
> in
> the Russian Army?

Whats up, RicK?

If I wanted to bet a circuit which had no \"usual suspects\" or \"supertrainers\",
exactly where in the US would you suggest I bet?

I like Santa Anita which offers quality turf racing and a decent jocks colony.
Also haven\'t gotten a smart TV yet, so prefer tracks which are carried by TVG.

Am I boycotting NYRA? Lets just say that its hard for me to support an
organization which does so many things so badly.

Back to the horse which was the subject of this post: Anyone else remember a
runner winning a maiden 25K claimer with a TG # of 3?

[Rick B.]

richiebee Wrote:
 
> If I wanted to bet a circuit which had no \"usual
> suspects\" or \"supertrainers\",
> exactly where in the US would you suggest I bet?

Probably Fonner Park...only because I haven\'t heard
of anything scandalous happening there. Or anything
at all, for that matter.

On your switch to Santa Anita, I get it. Really, I do --
it\'s where most of my horse betting dollars go these
days. I got sick of shenanigans and short prices at
Hawthorne, not unlike the way you likely feel about NY
racing.

(It occurs to me that the reason some of us we favor the
a new GF / wife over the old one, is that we don\'t hate
the new one as much. Yet.)

My point was, if you are looking for racing that is more
\"saintly\" than New York\'s...Santa Anita isn\'t your sanctuary.

[P-Dub]

Rick B. Wrote:
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> My point was, if you are looking for racing that
> is more
> \"saintly\" than New York\'s...Santa Anita isn\'t your
> sanctuary.

Sounds to me as if he likes the quality of racing better, as opposed to inferring that California racing is lily white. The jockey colony is amongst the strongest in the country, and they offer excellent turf racing. Field size usually isn\'t a problem either.

So Cal is a very good product to wager on, another good one is Tampa Bay.

[Rick B.]

P-Dub Wrote:
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> Sounds to me as if he likes the quality of racing
> better, as opposed to inferring that California
> racing is lily white.
>
> So Cal is a very good product to wager on, another
> good one is Tampa Bay.

Hi Paul. Hope all is well with you.

I agree with you about the quality of SoCal racing.
I do spend most of my horseracing dollars there.

Richie specifically commented (derisively) about
move-up trainers in NY, and it seemed odd to damn
NY and laud SoCal, when I know Left Coast racing has
plenty of their own jump-up guys, too.

[P-Dub]

Rick B. Wrote:
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> P-Dub Wrote:
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> -----
> > Sounds to me as if he likes the quality of
> racing
> > better, as opposed to inferring that California
> > racing is lily white.
> >
> > So Cal is a very good product to wager on,
> another
> > good one is Tampa Bay.
>
> Hi Paul. Hope all is well with you.
>
> I agree with you about the quality of SoCal
> racing.
> I do spend most of my horseracing dollars there.
>
> Richie specifically commented (derisively) about
> move-up trainers in NY, and it seemed odd to damn
> NY and laud SoCal, when I know Left Coast racing
> has
> plenty of their own jump-up guys, too.

I see your point about that Rick.

I applaud the So Cal product, and today for my last day of my racing weekend the card looks really blah.  I know yesterday\'s card was fantastic, but today looks really blend.

I\'m sure once I walk through the gates and look out at the track with the mountains in the background, my attitude will change.