interesting read...much slower as in a point?..now, im not talking about the horses who scratched....but in general, to me, ill take a horse going forward, younger, over older horses, who may at some point run faster, but are just as more likely to run what takeover target had been running....its true at some point in most of the other horses in race career, they had run much faster....however, im handicapiing on what they will run today....the fav in race last 2 were within a point of TT...the 2 horse was 8 yr old off layoff...the 5 was off an effort its reacted from...3 off big jump...ring weekend off year layoff...wasnt really hard at all to play him...did i play him big? no....did i use him in pics 3s..yes...as ive said before, ive used both products, have done well with both..in the end, it comes down to how you read the patterns..i played TT to move forward again based on pattern.....I see on sheet board, someone liked the 5...i really didnt...