Noble Indy

[thebig1five]

Ok here\'s another question regarding pace...

Noble Indy runs his first quarter mile in the Rebel Stakes 1 length behind a 24.15 pace and thorograph charts his first quarter in their race shapes as 24.50. But in the Louisiana Derby he runs 1 length behind a 22.97 pace, and thorograph charts his first quarter in their race shapes as 24.57. Slower than the Risen Star.

So as I now know well, each horse’s time is adjusted for track speed, wind, weight carried, and ground loss, if any. In the Risen Star he carried 116 lbs. In the Louisiana Derby he carried 122. Looking only at the weights, running 1 length behind a 22.97 pace while carrying 122 lbs vs running 1 length behind a 24.15 pace carrying 116 lbs I\'d assume the Louisiana derby fig would come back much faster. But instead it actually came back slightly slower. So either the wind was heavy on Louisiana Derby day or the track was playing way fast. Would appreciate some insight if available.

[Tavasco]

thebig1five Wrote:
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> Ok here\'s another question regarding pace...
>
> Noble Indy runs his first quarter mile in the
> Rebel Stakes 1 length behind a 24.15 pace and
> thorograph charts his first quarter in their race
> shapes as 24.50. But in the Louisiana Derby he
> runs 1 length behind a 22.97 pace, and thorograph
> charts his first quarter in their race shapes as
> 24.57. Slower than the Risen Star.

BIG15

As my doctor often says and the 911 responders said last night Take some deep breathes. Slow deep breathes. I did and no emergency room, no hospital stay all is well after some good sleep.

Noble Indy did not run in the Rebel Stakes. Consider an alternate perspective, Magnum Moon or Noble Indy probably can (as in is capable of) run fast enough to make the leading echelon. So What?

[TreadHead]

Obsessing over historical 1st quarter times as part of handicapping the derby?

\"Welcome to the pools\"

[Michael D.]

factor in the turns.

[boardedup]

Noble Indy ran at Fairgrounds?  Acted up before Risen star then \"came back\" and won the LA Derby (one of the few tickets I actually cashed this prep season)

[TGJB]

Yeah. And the idea that this of all weeks I would have time to piss away on this nonsense... or the historical request I got person to person...

From the Thin Man:

Reporter: What do you think about the investigation so far?

William Powell: It’s putting a big crimp in my drinking.

By the way, my part aside, Paul did a helluva job with the seminar production. We’ve come a long way from a bunch of guys looking at handwritten sheets in a rented room.

[TheBull]

Comical in so many ways

[thebig1five]

I mean, where horses want to position themselves early on and how easily they can get there makes a difference. You didn\'t know that?

[TGJB]

Do you know where you are?