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[gvido]

While we\'re at it, there should be a category for how the trainer is doing over the last 30 days. While 90 is a fine break off point, he may have been hot 60 days ago and cold the last 30 and vice versa.

[TGJB]

John-- I saw that myself, we\'re trying to figure out what\'s going on.

[big ant]

Jennifer Pedersens horses are juiced to the gills right now, i\'ve heard that her days are numbered and she is trying to win with everything. If you don\'t believe me just look at Pavo in the Gotham.How loaded was that horse?

[spa]

Rich....Wild Desert will be the slowest for the first mile and a 16th.

Interesting that another speed figure maker whose figures I respect has Mayan King running a 91 (broken out from the actual figure of 97) in his last start vs. the 86 Beyer gave him.

He also has Mr Sword running a 95 in his last start vs. an 84 from Beyer.  

Since the methodolgies of Beyer and this other source are identical, ground loss or other factors do not account for the wide discrepancy.

It\'s enough to turn a guy into a classhandicapper. :-)

[MO]

Oh yeah, I can see it now: Mayan KIng and Mr Sword running 1-2 approaching the far turn - both at odds of 9-1 and a pre start exacta of about $180.00. Then the odds drop dramatically on the turn to 5-2 for each of them. They run 1-2 and the exacta pays $38.40.

[JEB]

How is TP on outside horses at 9F. That is the one concern that i have about mayan king and mr sword(although they will be part of my plays. This is one of the more interesting derby preps that i have seen this season

Also, the bourbonette, anyone see Easily pulling an upset?

[Kasept]

JEB..

Turfway HAD been playing unusually well for outside speed at over a mile the past week.. Until yesterday, when the inside jumped up.

[HP]

Box Flower Alley, Andromeda\'s Hero and Wild Desert.  Good luck to all.  HP

[Bally Ache]

I like Mr. Sword too but you can see just from this thread that the horse is going to get bet. Also, there are several negatives to consider.

Bad post obviously.

Never ran against good horses.

Note the large discrepancy between work of 2/23 and works since last race. The last work is particularly disturbing because Pedersen works her horses fast. Hope the dogs were set wide.

Arroyo is always a threat to foul somebody or do something stupid.

In spite of all this I still like the horse.

Like Pedersen\'s horses in the two earlier stakes - particularly Amazing Buy.

Since the race is so wide open, there are several discrepancies between speed figure makers, several horses look like they are ready to break out etc... I think one thing is fairly certain. You have to throw out the chalk (whoever that winds up being) and try to beat him.

[Saddlecloth]

I agree, there are about 4 or so good enough to win, no way you can take a short price.  I see no reason that a horse like mayen king cant improve slightly and win this affair
classhandicapper wrote:

> Since the race is so wide open, there are several discrepancies
> between speed figure makers, several horses look like they are
> ready to break out etc... I think one thing is fairly certain.
> You have to throw out the chalk (whoever that winds up being)
> and try to beat him.

With the 4 and the 8 the first 2 choices you just have to get involved in this race and you can spread very thin !



Post Edited (03-26-05 17:19)

[mikemd]

nice call

I can\'t believe Mr. Sword didn\'t hang out for second. Ouch! Texcess was dreadful. He must not have liked the off track because he can\'t be that bad. For what it\'s worth, you can\'t find a more bettable race than this.