Richie, It\'s pretty clear that you don\'t fully comprehend the evidence and circumstances that have already been discussed. I don\'t think you\'re sufficiently in tune to the unreasonableness of the Plech performance jump ups and in a way you\'re very willing to provide cover for the suspects and dismiss improbable and outrageous anecdotal evidence. But your inability to see whats there isn\'t my point.
Heres the rub Richie. Plech finally hit the board some at Aqueduct after being becalmed in the doldrums. He\'s winning at about 16% now and is third in the money won standings. I won\'t be surprised if he wins the meet for money won, but I don\'t think we\'ll see him hitting in at 25% plus for awhile and I think I know why.
Keep in mind that they had nothing on Barry Bonds. There was lots of circumstantial evidence and hearsay but insufficient evidence to convict him of a substance violation, but where Bonds got in trouble was in answering tough questions. Congress of course had the authority of subpoenas and sworn oath and because of that Barry had to lie and he was caught in those lies. For the suspects involved in our situation, we don\'t currently have that authority,but what you are discounting is how a tough question and tough followup questions can catch a witness in evasion, vacillation and inane explanation and in those silly responses reveal their trait for candor and truthfulness. Maybe you don\'t think I can ask a tough question. Thats your prerogative, but before one can ask a tough question you have to have a deponent.
Maybe you should consider the implication in Sgt. Barry\'s last post that he wants me to tell him all I know before he takes any action. I think we discerned that he never intended to broach this topic with the suspects. I want someone to question them in detail. It doesn\'t have to be me, but I know the essential facts, can get down to them very quickly and am confident that I can elicit answers that this board will find extremely interesting. Questioning and followups upon that Lawyer Ron performance jump due to the exercise rider change just for example.
At some point, I do want to see them under oath, but for the present, I don\'t believe its even necessary if someone merely asks the right questions.
I disagree that there is not a substantial segment of those involved in the game that don\'t already know that something very fishy has been going on. You\'ve forgotten some very recent DRF stories and apparently don\'t talk much to other handicappers about the issue.
You were correct, the last two words of the National Anthem are \"Play Ball!\" but even \"the brave\" would have sufficed. Unfortunately we are going to get neither.
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> Barry (and to a degree,Sighthound):
>
> To be fair, the Clown has not been the only poster
> on this board to join
> in the low speed pursuit of the White Mercedes.
> The Clown\'s bluster and
> arrogance have never been able to conceal the
> absolute lack of factual
> basis for his allegations.
>
> I would think that Steven Allday,one of the most
> prominent vets in Racing,
> and Todd Pletcher, who will own all of the
> important training records in this
> country by the time he retires, would be too busy
> making millions of dollars
> to take 10 seconds, not to mention 10 minutes, to
> defend themselves against
> an \"internet troll\".
>
> Whenever the Clown attacks Allday/Pletcher, I feel
> compelled to point out
> that he is being slightly irresponsible by failing
> to provide a factual
> foundation for his allegations.
>
> Do I want to see Chuckles and others silenced for
> what might be perceived as a
> lack of responsibility and accountability?
> Absolutely not.
>
> The racing fan/handicapper who believes that the
> playing field is uneven has no
> real advocate in two of Racing\'s major
> publications, DRF and the Blood
> Horse,which are basically house organs and really
> never are critical of Racing.
> When these publications set out to address what is
> wrong with Racing, you might
> see the occasional editorial, but not an extensive
> and sustained effort to cure
> Racing\'s many maladies. So here on this board, and
> on other similar ones I would
> imagine, is heard the voice of the Racing fan and
> thankfully that voice is some
> times utilized to express concern, discontent and
> disgust with the current
> state of the industry.
>
> Racing has struck the iceberg, and DRF and Blood
> Horse are playing \"Nearer My
> God to Thee\".
>
> Doc Allday has access to Steve Byk\'s radio show.
> Doc Allday could come on this
> board using his own name, just as Barry Irwin has.
> Why hasn\'t he found it
> necessary to address the allegations made on this
> board?
>
> Because he doesn\'t have to, because there has been
> no harm to his practice and
> no harm to his reputation. And to be honest,
> nobody has really taken the good
> Doctor himself to task for his anger fueled,
> innuendo laden attack on one of New
> York\'s leading trainers. We all know Chuckles\'
> posts are factually challenged,
> but the tone of Allday\'s tirade was \"I have so
> many facts which of course I can
> not disclose\". No real help for Racing there.
>
> Barry, you are a big player and an important voice
> in Racing. You have access to
> the major forums. In terms of racing\'s problems,
> there is a lot of big game to
> be hunted, yet you seem to be overly concerned
> with a small pest.
>
> Barry and Sight: When it comes to having specific
> facts regarding Allday\'s
> practice or Pletcher\'s training techniques, we all
> know that Chuckles is \"Big
> hat, no cattle\". You have not exactly replaced
> Woodward and Bernstein by
> disclosing this. And, if anything, all you have
> accomplished is giving a certain
> Clown a lot of attention, which a certain amateur
> psychologist/ professional
> figure maker says is CTC\'s raison d\' etre.
