THE GREATEST HORSE IN HISTORY UP IN TIME!!!

[Silver Charm]

WOW. I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING MORE INCREDIBLE IN 35 YEARS OF WATCHING RACING

WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW

[fkach]

LMAO.

I think they should consider retirement. Unless he was a very short horse, he\'s not even the same as he was this spring. Plus he drifted badly again.

[tmon]

I wouldn\'t be surprised if he wasn\'t short. Only one real good work at 6 Furlongs.

[Silver Charm]

The peoples horse as they call him.

I think all of those thousands of fans cheering wildly for Big Brown (as the TV coverage said) as he returned to be unsaddled were paid by IEAH.

This is what the game has come down to when trying to manufacture plastic greatness.

Speaking of plastic how are Big Browns feet now.

[Rick B.]

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> I think all of those thousands of fans cheering
> wildly for Big Brown (as the TV coverage said) as
> he returned to be unsaddled were paid by IEAH.

I think you need a new jacket, white, with the sleeves and the straps that go in back.

[DaveDuggan]

How good was it? My guess is a thing somewhere between his first race as a 3yo and the preakness ratingwise. How does 0 2/4 sound?

Could this be an established form-cyclus that should see BB run two huge races in a row now? (if dutrow and company dare to start him again that is)

I actually think it might be. What do you think TGJB, is that estimate around the 0-mark way off?

[mchmura44]

This is how the horse looks when Dutrow is not putting steroids in him every 15th of the month.  He is an very good horse in a so-so class.  Just look at the results of the first place finisher of the Belmont in last weeks Jim Dandy.

[Silver Charm]

I don\'t know what # he ran other than he is running thru pain with sore feet.

The horse tried as hard as he could. Put that on his sheet.

Just don\'t stamp it as one of the great ones.

[NoCarolinaTony]

Coal Play is still eligible NW2X, and two others had no business being in the race.

the way he was drifting st 9F he would have been at the outside fence at 10F.

Maybe they should consider turf, the way he ran and broke his maiden. Doubt he could beat his elders in his current form.

NC Tony

[P-Dub]

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> The peoples horse as they call him.
>
> I think all of those thousands of fans cheering
> wildly for Big Brown (as the TV coverage said) as
> he returned to be unsaddled were paid by IEAH.
>
> This is what the game has come down to when trying
> to manufacture plastic greatness.
>
> Speaking of plastic how are Big Browns feet now.

>I have two channels of the Big Brown Network on and I am trying to watch the >Haskel.

>Should I go to the Twin Spires video for some racing coverage and not an >infomercial.


You know Silver, sometimes you can really be a pathetic cynic.

Thats being kind.

Many of you bitch and moan about horseracing, it isn\'t in the sports mainstream, needs a boost,  blah blah blah.

ESPN devotes a Sunday afternoon to showcase the Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner,  a horse that made people tune in and watch the Belmont producing large ratings.......and you want to make wisecracks about the entire production. He\'s also on the front page of the ESPN website as well as having a segment on Sportscenter. Who should they have focused on??  Cool Coal Man??  Perhaps Magical Forest??

They had 45,000 fans show up for the Haskell.  I doubt they showed up to watch Silver Tree ( with all due respect to that fine horse).  Who in the hell do you think they were rooting for??  Your comments about being paid for by IEAH, despite in all probability being tongue in cheek, are just asinine.

Manufacturing \"plastic greatness\"??  Despite the incredibly lame term you apparently came up with all by yourself, wouldn\'t you agree that Big Brown had been pretty impressive up to the Belmont Stakes??  And taking into account the disappointing effort in the Belmont,  wouldn\'t you also agree that this race was worthy of the hype and anticipation despite the relatively weak field?? Adding in the possibility of retirement if he had managed to lose,  this was an important race for horse racing fans whether or not you are a Big Brown fan. The Breeders\' Cup will be a better event if he manages to race that day, and will also make for a better wagering opportunity if you like others that day.

Guys like you bemoan the state of racing, the lack of coverage, the lack of respect by the general sports public.  Yet at the same time guys like you, self proclaimed lovers of the sport,  espouse your cynical views to tear down one of the biggest attractions in the sport you claim to be a fan of. Nice. You then litter this board with some of the most senseless, useless crap around.  I guess you\'re trying to be the Chuckles The Clown clone??

You obviously dislike this horse. Thats your choice. But sounding off the way that you do makes you sound like an idiot. And its not of the plastic variety either. Its real.

Do us all a favor, join Congaree1 in Miami during Breeders\' Cup week.

[basket777]

From what i read today the horse won a million dollar race again.  opps thats 4 for 5 in million dollar races. maybe the horse isn\'t great.  but 4 outa 5 ani\'t bad.  

where do i sign up for one of those?

[Silver Charm]

P-Dub

I\'m going to respond and leave it at this. Those were some pretty personal insults you tossed my way that you will not see going from me back at you. What do they say class always tells.

I don\'t have any problem with the horse. He tried hard but his feet are hurting him and he could not perform at his best. I have a big problem with declaring greatness when it is not there. If this is done to create interest in fans then just say.

\"We are making all of this hype up to get people to watch\".

If a 60 day run from the end of March until mid-May makes someone one of the best in the history of their respective sports something is not right. There is so much money involved in the hyping of a good three year old to build Stallion Syndication Fees we have people handing out hats, sponsoring handicapping shows with their own horse in it, hyjacking TV coverages, (Where was the Zito interview yesterday?) and on and on and on. That wasn\'t all a joke about the paid fans. This is how bad it has gotten with the money involved it is only a matter of time until people begin bringing there own cheering sections.


PS-You still have a problem with this call Jerry. Tell him to give you my email and number and look me up (and anybody else who wants it for that matter). I stick by these words.

[richiebee]

P-Dub Wrote:
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> wouldn\'t you agree that Big Brown
> had been pretty impressive up to the Belmont
> Stakes??  

P- Dub:

My feeling is that if Big Brown had been born one year earlier, Street Sense,
Curlin and probably Hard Spun would have been ranked above him.

As to the coverage by ESPN, if the Haskell had been run in the middle of
football season, ESPN wouldn\'t have been within 100 miles of Monmouth Park
unless there was a Rutgers home game.

Regarding the 45,000 racing fans at Monmouth Sunday, my guess is that 35,000
of these fans will not be back to the races until the 2009 Haskell. Do not
confuse Monmouth Park\'s ability to market its signature event (which includes
the payment of appearance money to the human connections of the marquee horse,
which has been going on for years and undercuts what little integrity racing
has left) with any great love that the public has for this colt. And if they
gave away a hat or a t-shirt or a folding chair, who knows how many people were
really there?
 
Big Brown\'s biggest contribution to Racing might be that he was trained by a
man with multiple suspensions who openly admitted to training the colt on
steroids, and that some changes (which may have been coming anyway) might be
made in the way performance enhancing substances are used in Racing.

Sorry if this sounds cynical, but BB has had a great 3YO campaign, as did Smarty
Jones and Point Given-- neither of whom should be mentioned in the same breath
as the great colts of the 1970s, and neither of whom left a long standing impact
on Racing.

Just one man\'s opinion.

[miff]

With a Beyer of 106, the fig looks app neg-2 if Jerry agrees. His bearing out thru the lane probably has to do with how BB presents getting tired or feeling discomfort or something, no one knows with certainty. Often, a horse won\"t show the same thing in the am going slowly but this horse has in fact done this same bearing out in the am.Tricky does not know why.His feet were better than ever going in,forget the feet unless they got busted up in the race.

Not having had a real race since the Preakness(BB got nothing out of the Belmont)he had  tough hard fought win which may propel him next out.He chased a fast pace pace and ran down a horse that ran his lifetime best yesterday on a surface that was honest but kind to speed.Those salivating to bet against next time better have a good alternative 3yr old. I have not seen one that would not have had to run a lifetime top to handle the \"bad\" BB of yesterday

Within the next week or so, BB\'s racing future will be decided. The ugly win may force their hand to retire him unless he came out totally sound and is tearing the barn down in the coming days.

With such a valuable asset, I can\'t imagine why they would risk him on the racetrack again even if he was a short horse yesterday.


Mike

[alm]

So BB ground out this one...and that makes him a bum?  

SC, what would you have said after Secretariat\'s Wood, when he got beat by a sprinter and really looked like a bum?

Huh?  No way he could win the Derby, right?  Right!

BB looked overweight in the post parade, probably ran without steroids (which many of your favorite champions have used for decades), caught an impossible Monmouth track surface....and still won.  This horse and his connections deserve a lot of credit for what they pulled off yesterday.

I should say, for what BB pulled off.