Caracortado's Next Start

[miff]

\"Put me in the distance challenged camp\"


Guys,

What distance is JB challenged at? He missed a length at the Preakness distance and finished with the horses in front of him.Distance challenged horses BACK UP thru the lane, he did not.Is that his best distance? Don\'t know,but he ran ok with a perfect trip which he made for himself.Many horses get a perfect trip and back up anyway because they are distance challenged.

JB is a nickle bred hard trier with little upside imo, does not possess the physicality to move up to the next level.Would be hard pressed to find a spot that I could stand with JB.

With this group, his best effort is competitive at whatever distance they run, which for the Kool Aid drinkers,numbers alone do not confirm/refute.With a faster crop, JB would be a constant also ran.

Mike

[nyc1347]

dont get it...  first dude and LAL ran faster efforts than Jackson Bend.. if JB ran past them it wouldve only been bc he saved more ground.  Has nothing at all with being distance challenged.. if he was in the same race next out with 6 weeks off running against horses that were running 6s and 7s im pretty much sure he would win at the distance (just as an example).  He did set a new top effort last out and it was a career best..  Even though it was only a small new top.

[Rich Curtis]

MJellish wrote:

\"I\'m not going to get into a symantics discussion. How do you define a new top?\"

All-time classic.

I define a new top as a top that is faster than the old top--the same way the Thoro-Graph analysis defined it when saying Super Saver ran a slight new top in the Derby.

 Listen, MJellish, I very much disagree with the way you frame the short-term evidence from these distance questions, but none of this should be considered anything close to important. This is a message board, not a horse race (or a betting window). If what you do works over the long haul, then in some sense you are \"right.\" And the same goes for NYC, and it goes even if what you and he are saying is completely at odds. This game doesn\'t allow for conclusive results about the distance preference of a given horse. What you wrote to discount Super Saver\'s new top at 10F? Someone else will employ similar-style reasoning to discount the importance of a future Super Saver 10F dry-track flop. Grant yourself a license to employ this technique and you are granting it to others as well.

[mjellish]

Fair enough.