Destruction of our beloved sport

[Funny Cide]

MO Wrote:
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> If the Breeders\' Cup were truley a world
> championship event, then it should be run at least
> once in Europe.


I can call myself the Pres of the US but that doesn\'t make me the Pres of the US.

In this European BC, where would you suggest they hold the dirt races?

[MO]

At the new track they are building in Ireland. Big article about it a few months ago, but I have yet to locate it. When I do, I\'ll post it.

In the past, several Euros have come to America to run on dirt for the 1st time.

Now, the Breeders\' Cup \"invents races\" for any horse who can stand up. We started with 7. Now we have what, 20?  If this is the trend , then having an all turf Breeders Cup in Europe is the next logical step, if you believe the folks at the BC are out to make horse racing the best it can be......

[MO]

Here\'s the link:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0310/1224291779193.html

[P-Dub]

MO Wrote:
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> Now, the Breeders\' Cup \"invents races\" for any
> horse who can stand up. We started with 7. Now we
> have what, 20?  If this is the trend , then having
> an all turf Breeders Cup in Europe is the next
> logical step, if you believe the folks at the BC
> are out to make horse racing the best it can
> be......


Well, weren\'t the first 7 races \"invented\" also??  Or did the racing Gods bequeath them to the founders of the BC, and the rest were invented??

What is wrong with the additional races they\'ve \"invented\" from the original seven??  Some are a reach, but some are great additions to the program.  They have also presented some great wagering opportunities for the fans, isn\'t that a good thing??

[MO]

P-Dub Wrote:
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> >
> Well, weren\'t the first 7 races \"invented\" also??
> Or did the racing Gods bequeath them to the
> founders of the BC, and the rest were invented??
>
> What is wrong with the additional races they\'ve
> \"invented\" from the original seven??  Some are a
> reach, but some are great additions to the
> program.  They have also presented some great
> wagering opportunities for the fans, isn\'t that a
> good thing??

I can\'t disagree with you here on wagering opportunities but my original point of having the races run in Europe concerns me more and since you did not address that point, I\'d like to hear your point of view. What\'s wrong with an \"all turf Breeders\' cup\"?

[Funny Cide]

MO Wrote:
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> At the new track they are building in Ireland. Big
> article about it a few months ago, but I have yet
> to locate it. When I do, I\'ll post it.
>
> In the past, several Euros have come to America to
> run on dirt for the 1st time.
>
> Now, the Breeders\' Cup \"invents races\" for any
> horse who can stand up. We started with 7. Now we
> have what, 20?  If this is the trend , then having
> an all turf Breeders Cup in Europe is the next
> logical step, if you believe the folks at the BC
> are out to make horse racing the best it can
> be......

Sorry, MO, I didn\'t catch the sarcasm in your previous post.

The BC has talked before of it going to Europe.  They were lucky that A) I didn\'t live near their office, and B) that I care to not be arrested.

The BC is supposed to be a non-profit whose purpose is to promote American Tb racing through a day of championship races.  They don\'t act like a non-profit or an entity that gives a damn about anything besides how to line their own pockets.  Why is getting every nickel they can scrape up so important to them?  If they only need X dollars to put on their event, and they\'re easily raising X dollars, why do they need more?  

They have demonstrated their willingness to destroy what was the best day in racing for money, specifically the European handle.  If racing had a million bucks for every stupid decision by the BC over the past 3 or 4 years, racing would be riding high.  Some kept saying that things would get better (meaning \"sane\") when the \"good guys\" kicked out Farish and got their guys ruling the roost.  Well, the supposed \"good guys\" are in there and the stupid decisions haven\'t stopped.  Nothing against Santa Anita, but they give the event to a track who has been plagued with surface issues and doesn\'t even presently have a tested dirt surface in place?

I\'m dying for a racing journalist to do some actual journalism and take a real deep look at the BC and what\'s really going on there.

[plasticman]

Interestingly enough, the actual NFL super bowl is trying to incorporate a possibility of a snowy super bowl, while the \"super bowl of horse racing\" is getting AWAY from cold weather.

Belmont and NY are only insulted because the BC has, in the past, been held at their venue.

Since the explosion of off track wagering and the idea that most people bet from home, isnt it a good idea to, pretty much, guarantee fast and firm? I would imagine that their \'numbers\' show that wet tracks get less handle than dry tracks.

Why put yourself in a position to take a huge hit handlewise?

Maybe it didnt matter back in the day, but now, most of the money is coming from off track, people just want to bet on races running fast and firm.

Belmont can\'t guarantee that.

[phil23]

Repole already talking about boycott/competing meet.

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/2011/08/09/repole-sounds-off.aspx

Not good.  None of this.  And it all could have easily been prevented.  I get that NYRA needs to make improvements/owner accommodations.  But that is going to happen once the casino cash starts to roll.  The BC needed to swallow some of it\'s pride here.  

This decision may be looked upon, in 10 years, when the BC has completely fragmented, as the final nail in our sports coffin.  

Sad.

[richiebee]

phil23 Wrote:
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> Repole already talking about boycott/competing
> meet.

For someone who has been in the game about 4 years, Repole talks too much. Will
people still be listening when he realizes he\'s much more profitable with high
priced claims than he is with expensive yearlings.

When Mr. Repole and his entourage visit Belmont, I am sure they are not on the
third floor of the grandstand, where he would find that one needs to search for a
lavratory stall with a working latch, or you can sit on the toilet seat with your
foot against the stall door in order to have some privacy.

The resurrection/ renaissance of NY racing begins with the opening of the Resorts World operation and the closing of the Hayward/Campo/NY Greeders era.
>
> http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/a
> rchive/2011/08/09/repole-sounds-off.aspx
>
> Not good.  None of this.  And it all could have
> easily been prevented.  I get that NYRA needs to
> make improvements/owner accommodations.  But that
> is going to happen once the casino cash starts to
> roll.  The BC needed to swallow some of it\'s pride
> here.  
>
> This decision may be looked upon, in 10 years,
> when the BC has completely fragmented, as the
> final nail in our sports coffin.

I was thinking if one was looking for coffin nails one might look to the fact
that the once premier Del Mar meet needs a contrived match race to create some
buzz.

There must be a Chantal/Mikey sex tape somewhere. Make it the center of a give
away day. I mean we are all tired of hats, shirts and bobblehead dolls, no?

I mean, whats next, a reality show which involves Mike Smith having 3 glasses of
wine and then valet parking expensive cars at the clubhouse valet lot?  
>
> Sad.

[TGJB]

Richie-- it\'s far more likely there\'s a tape of them arguing than a sex tape. Legendary.