Conspiracy Theory

[sekrah]

\"Doug, your horse tested positive for XXX.   We can\'t let him run tomorrow.  We don\'t want another black eye for the sport so here is our offer:  You retire I\'ll Have Another and word of this test result never leaves this room.  Deal?\"

[plasticman]

I wonder how much theyre paying the connections to have IHA \'lead\' the post parade tomorrow, i cant imagine they are doing NYRA a \'free favor\'.

Sek, i wouldnt put anything past anyone, its entirely possible your theory has some merit.

You could also make a case that with the tight prerace security he wasnt allowed to do what he \'normally does\' to get a horse ready for the race.

Maybe the truth will come out at some point.

[justwin]

Nonsense. Why retire the horse? Wouldn\'t it make more sense to be an injury that knocked the horse out several months. What about the penalty to o\'Neill? Do we just forget about that too?

[magicnight]

Yeah, that\'s clearly the most likely answer. It\'s not like these horses ever get hurt or anything.

[sekrah]

Yea, it\'s not like Doug O\'Neill has a history of drug violations and absurd move-ups or anything.

[magicnight]

And the drug violations and move ups mean that his horses never get hurt?

How do you fold your tin foil, Sek?

[sekrah]

magicnight Wrote:
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> And the drug violations and move ups mean that his
> horses never get hurt?
>
> How do you fold your tin foil, Sek?


Horses do get hurt.   But the day before the Belmont, in the middle of a never before seen quarantine of horses and stringent testing, after the animal was looking spectacular for 2 weeks over the track a gallop ends his career.   Sure it happens, but I got plenty of tin foil leftover for this one.

[plasticman]

I wouldnt place a tin foil hat on a person who doesnt blindly believe everything he hears. Do you just automatically believe what people tell you magic?

[TGJB]

More importantly, did you get down offshore before the scratch?

[sekrah]

Yes, I\'m locked in to Paynter at 10-1.

[sekrah]

magicnight.

NYRA comes out and says IHA failed a drug test and won\'t be allowed to run in the Belmont.   The Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner, with tens of millions of dollars wagered on the race, was juiced up by a known and documented juicer and screwed the public.

What do you think the headline news is for the next week on ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, etc..  How many 60 Minutes and 20/20 reports on doping will we see over the next several months?  and how do you think that news will affect the horse racing industry?  

I\'ll answer the question for you.  It would be the final nail in the coffin.  There\'s not a chance in the world they would let news of a Ky Derby winner failing a drug test leak out.   Not a chance.

[justwin]

they wouldn\'t retire the horse either. Look I\'ve heard that O\'neill was a cheater a long time ago but this does not add up to me. Again, why punish the horse forever?

[HP]

I love conspiracy theories.  On this one, if this is true, what about Kentucky and Maryland?  Did the horse win those races drug free or did those states blow it?  Or the detention barn raised the stakes high enough for O\'Neill to get O\'Nailed?  

I guess one problem I\'d have with this CTheory is it would mean New York was actually doing a better job on this and I find it hard to believe New York does a better job on ANYTHING.  

The other problem is that you would be relying on a bunch of people to keep their mouths shut.  And why is Dr. James Hunt lying?  If your theory is correct this vet who examined the horse is lying.  And if it comes out, and he is lying, isn\'t Dr. Hunt going to get in some trouble?  Dr. Hunt\'s incentive to do this is what exactly?  Maybe NYRA has some dirt on Dr. Hunt and he\'s paying off his favor bank debt from a previous conspiracy?  Usually you have to pay people to shut up if they are on the level and have something to lose.  In this case, who would be paying Dr. Hunt to lie?  

Jerry\'s point about a lightly raced horse maybe getting hurt after doing a lot in a short period of time makes more sense to me, but anything is possible.  I don\'t want to belabor this and upset Miff.  LOL.  

Joe Drape will probably be turning his investigative powers on this shortly and then we\'ll know the real story.  

HP

[HP]

Oh and I bet they are sorry they gave into those union jerks now!  Sorry had to get that one in.  

HP

[sekrah]

justwin Wrote:
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> they wouldn\'t retire the horse either. Look I\'ve
> heard that O\'neill was a cheater a long time ago
> but this does not add up to me. Again, why punish
> the horse forever?

Seriously?  How are they punishing the horse by sending it to stud?