Nasal Strips

[jerry]

OK. No more sniping. I probably just got banged around a little too much Saturday and I\'m still feeling it. I still doubt the nasal strips are the reason for the jump up. Who knows. Maybe they\'re really nicotine patches.

[jerry]

Alright. Alright. All true. No mas. Looking forward to the Preakness summary.

[KK4510]

I think the issue is that nasal strips enhance breathing which in turn can enhance performance. A horse that bleeds will perform to his level till he starts to bleed. So a horse that has a breathing problem won\'t show issues till he is put under tremendous stress.

[moosepalm]

miff Wrote:
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> If something legal moved a horse up 6 inches,every
> trianer would be using it.


If something legal moved me up 6 inches, I\'d be using it.  At that point, I\'ll take my chances with performance enhancement.

The whole issue of these equine \"breathe rights\" should be put in the running for the \"much ado about nothing\" award for 2014.  Almost nobody uses them and almost nobody outlaws them.  So far, the only rationale for NY racing\'s prohibition belongs to one former steward who had a burr in his saddle on the issue.  Just the kind of firm ground you want to be standing on to blockade the most newsworthy event the sport will have this year.  The upshot is that NY racing will have to look stupid for undoing something that was probably equally stupid in the first place.  That is probably the least newsworthy event the sport will have this year.

There is a woeful lack of documentation about the efficacy of this glorified band aid anywhere other than the product website, which is the first place I always go for unbiased reporting.  Is it possible that Chrome jumped through the roof because of the product?  Well, given the lack of information about the product or anything else the horse might have experienced at that time, who knows?  But, for the horse\'s connections, if it ain\'t broke they ain\'t gonna fix it.  This was a no brainer stand off for them, because they were holding all the winning cards.  But, if it really was some kind of magic elixir does anyone seriously think Doug O\'Neill would have rolled over in 2012?  There are lines in the sand all over the place that need to be drawn for performance enhancers.  This doesn\'t look like one of them.

[TGJB]

First of all, the rumors in 2012 were that IHA never left his stall after the Preakness so it may never have been an issue in the real world. But from where I\'m sitting nobody wanted O\'Neill to win the TC and everyone wants Sherman to, and NYRA needs positive news. None of which are good reasons to change a rule for one horse.

But that aside, again, the issue is one of transparency, and keeping this game bettable. We don\'t know whether the strip moved him up-- but if not it\'s a hell of a coincidence, and if it did, it moved him up a LOT.

[FrankD.]

Or Vodka on or off for snoring purposes!

[moosepalm]

TGJB Wrote:
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>
> But that aside, again, the issue is one of
> transparency, and keeping this game bettable. We
> don\'t know whether the strip moved him up-- but if
> not it\'s a hell of a coincidence, and if it did,
> it moved him up a LOT.


1) No question about transparency, but that also goes to the reasons for establishing regulations.  It\'s about keeping the game credible as well as bettable.  If there was a good reason for this, as opposed to steward whimsy, then you make your stand.  They rolled over very quickly on this which suggests they didn\'t like what they were feeling underneath their feet.  Until I read persuasive documentation that the band aid works, I don\'t think I\'m going to jump all over \"first time breathe right\" if they start publishing it in the Form.  That doesn\'t mean it didn\'t work for Chrome.  All it means is that we really don\'t know what it means.

2) Those strips were a waste of money for me.  I still get relegated to the spare bedroom on \"important sleeping\" nights.  You have me by about 50 pounds (and 50 yards off the tee), so I want to know if that\'s the secret.

3) This is a long thread, and I may have missed it along the way, but the trainer is Art Sherman, not Alan Sherman.  Not trying to play forename police here, but the only connection I can make to \"Alan\" Sherman, for those old enough to remember is \"hello mudda, hello fodda\".

[richiebee]

TGJB Wrote:
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> Second, I\'ve used them almost every single night
> since they first hit the stores and they make a
> HUGE difference in air I get and whether I wake up
> constantly. It may depend on the person (or
> horse), but it\'s not a close call with me.

I tried one the other night. one of my co-workers assured me it did NOT prevent me from snoring...

[KK4510]

Alan is Art\'s son.  I think the issue of nasal strips can be looked at like front wraps. Some trainers put them on for no reason other than to deceive the public and other trainers. Some horses need front wraps for leg issues. I think CC my have a breathing problem which was solved using nasal strips. Could explain why they work for some horses and not for others.  Probably cheaper than nasal surgery which he may get after the TC.

[smalltimer]

This has been an interesting and engaging topic.  I came to the following conclusions about the whole scenario.
1.  When Delgado was replaced by Espinoza the horse benefitted by a rider who no longer tried to have the horse on the rail, or moving the horse up in between horses.  As mjellish said initially, Chrome likes to stalk on the outside.
2. When I looked at video and then the result charts, every time except the San Felipe, Espinoza was able to stalk from the outside. With Delgado, any time Chrome was in between horses or chasing inside, CC ran up the track. Credit to Victor for putting the horse where the horse wants to be.
3. First they added fronts for 3 races.  Then they removed the fronts and added Lasix and blinkers.  The last thing added was the nasal strip.  
4. That appears to be the magic formula for this horse now.
5. The horse performs a workout or jogs a mile and a half without the strip, but uses it in races.  If its produced a desired affect in live races, why not use it for workouts/long jogs?
6. Now, I think Chrome is running with some confidence that he may  be able overcome being trapped inside for awhile, or at least until Victor can move him where he wants to be.
7. I\'m with mjellish and a  few others on here regarding how tired Chrome is right now. When he began to make his way back to the winner\'s circle after the race, I seen Chrome drop his head for a couple steps. I\'m convinced he emptied out pretty good at Pimlico.
8.  Depending on who actual shows up, I\'m gonna play the race 25% that Chrome has one more real good one in him, 50% that he\'s empty in the stretch, and 25% that he doesn\'t even hit the super.
9.For the sake of my buddy P-Dub, I hope Chrome runs great and returns healthy.
It takes a helluva horse to win all 3 and he will have one helluva target on his back at even money.
10.Good luck to all.

[louisvilleguy1111]

Even money try 1/5 you know how many people are buying $2 win tickets to sell on ebay!! lol This horse will be every bit of 2/5 in the wagering if not really 1/5! I have a friend in NY that is going to the races just to purchase 1000 - $2 Win tickets not cash them just so he can sell them on ebay after the horse wins the Triple Crown for like $30 each. BTW he did the same thing with Big Brown and almost killed himself when the horse pulled up, lol... and was all set to do the same with I\'ll Have Another as well.

No way my buddy is the only one with this idea, I can\'t see him over 2/5 in the wagering and expect him to be 1/5.

[smalltimer]

So what happens if I buy 1000 $2.00 win tickets and he wins the Triple Crown and I post them on ebay for $ 20.00 each?  Which one you gonna buy first?

[Tavasco]

Clearly the $30 versions are more valuable!

[Boscar Obarra]

I love it,  you say he looked beat after the Preakness and I thought he looked like he hadn\'t been in a race.

 Not saying I\'m right, just how perception is everything.

[alydar61]

This Donofrio guy sounds like quite a sketch.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/horse-in-contention-for-triple-crown-will-have-to-run-without-nasal-strips/2012/06/06/gJQAaAwnJV_story.html