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Ollie

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On the subject of track bias
« on: July 17, 2014, 08:27:03 AM »
which we all try our best to discern and to capitalize on by making the best decision(s):


https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/understanding-track-bias
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TGJB

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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 12:44:45 PM »
Miff posted this a few days ago as well. I had an email dialogue with Peterson that I used for my DRF Expo presentation (displayed as \"Changing Track Speeds\" in the Archive section here), obviously have serious respect for the work he does, and have found a lot of his findings to be true, coming at it from another direction.

Having said that, I keep waiting for someone to raise the obvious question about his track bias comments. Curtis? Are you ready to use the nine letter A word?
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Ollie

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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 01:16:40 PM »
Sorry, didn\'t see Miff\'s post.
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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 01:32:22 PM »
Not a problem at all. Surprised the first one didn\'t get responses, hopefully this will.
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Rich Curtis

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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 01:38:34 PM »
When did assertion become sufficient?
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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 02:06:47 PM »
Yeah, that\'s the A word.

To put it in more detail, Peterson discusses the causes of \"biases\" without explaining what data he uses to show there is in fact a bias, let alone a cause and effect relationship.

This conversation is a long and winding road that leads inevitably to a story about a jumping frog and some scientists, once incorrectly credited here by me to Mark Twain...

Again, I have a lot of respect for Peterson.
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Rich Curtis

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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 04:54:23 PM »
Frog with no legs is deaf? You should tell it again. It will set Richiebee up for a crack about his mother-in-law.
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billk5300s

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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2014, 01:16:59 PM »
I\'ve watched the first 2 races at Saratoga today and see an incredible speed/rail bias.  Reminds me of the winter meet at Gulfstream.  I realize 2 races isn\'t much of a sample size but Waco wasn\'t much compared to the competition.
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Tavasco

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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2014, 02:17:41 PM »
Four out of Four.

Could be coincidence. Whatever that is? Or a rush to judgement knee jerk.
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Boscar Obarra

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Re: On the subject of track bias
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2014, 02:59:32 PM »
I love folks needing 20 races to confirm a bias.

 Helps my prices.
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