quintons gold rush

[TGJB]

Basically CTC got it right-- there are a lot of variables, and all 0-2-x\'s are not equal.

Which is why, in the pattern studies which should be available very soon (right, Mandown?), we break the horses out by age and time of year. It becomes tricky breaking it out by degree of top, development etc., because of sample size. But we hope to have the ability to address these issues in general terms soon.

[Michael D.]

silver,
i just don\'t see examples of the 0-2-x BEFORE the race..... as for smarty, the horse could x in the derby, but i doubt it would be because of the 0-2-x theory. if he ran 1 mile at OP on may 1, the odds of an x would be extremely small.

[Silver Charm]

Marc clearly made an issue of the whether or not the 0-2-X angle was really viable. However it is possible that he did this over on the Ragozin Board. Periodically he would bring his vicious bloodthirsty personal attacks over to this Board.

Jerry did what he had to do.

He banned Marc from The Board I believe for life.

I still miss the guy.

[Michael D.]

silver,
it\'s triple crown time, stick to the triple crown.........

[Silver Charm]

You got it.

[big ant]

I had posted last year for the Preakness that PR would X (or not run his race ) and it turns out he didn\'t .I believe SJ will toss in a clunker @ CD on 01May, and there is a good chance he will, i was suprised he didn\'t riccochet in the last one. I cannot take a horse who has run that fast already at small odds, in fact i wouldn\'t like him at 10-1. It is only a matter of time before the wheels come off these types. Although they may not have 0-2-x\'ed you can include Funny Cide, War Emblem, Proud Citizen and Charismatic to the pile of horseflesh that will soon include SJ.

[Kingfisher]

Sure looks like a pile of winning horseflesh to me. Three Derbies, three Preaknesses between them, and the other placed in both. And all at long odds. Yet you come to the conclusion that because Smarty Jones has a similar profile, therefore he will lose???

Remember George Santayana: \"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.\"

[Michael D.]

good points.... seems the mr prospector speed types, the horses everybody love tossing from their derby bets, have held their own recently. they rarely have the durability to be a factor in the fall, but this aint the fall.

[miff]

durability, my big concern,does sj have one more in him or should he be a toss.Tough call, I would hate to blow the exotics by not using him since i feel all payoff\'s will be good this year regardless of who hits the board.

[big ant]

I hope you bet a bundle ,tell all your friends too

[Kingfisher]

How can you toss a horse who has done nothing but win?

Think about Seattle Slew, Foolish Pleasure, even Sunny\'s Halo.

[Upper Nile]

Think about Mr. Frisky and Norther Dancer



Post Edited (04-27-04 10:17)

[miff]

If you think he\'s over the top, you have to toss him. Big ant is certain he\'s off the board,I\'m on the fence until I see how the track is playing on Sat.

[Silver Charm]

Wasn\'t Value Plus 0-2-X or was it the distance that got to him.

[miff]

Value Plus would appear to have distance limitations. SJ is still a question mark, even though he has accomplished much more than VP.