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TheBull

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Danzing Candy Post 20
« on: May 04, 2016, 04:52:10 PM »
Certainly makes things more interesting with regards to pace....if outwork or another really want the lead that bad, they got their wish

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 05:06:42 PM »
I believe Mor spirit may go,Outwork may go Mohay has really been wound up and May fire as well,Nyquist will be close as well.
If DC stays true to his history he is really going to have to go to clear.
I\'m predicting a half closer to 46 than 47.
As Baffert said all the speed is outside,closers inside
Like 2 separate races are being run..
Good luck every one
John

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 05:11:24 PM »
I feel like being outside is pretty perfect for this one all things considered.  15-1 ml is certainly upsetting though.

Nyquist likely will have to do some work early. Romans not a happy camper right now either I\'d guess

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 05:14:51 PM »
Agree with MO, watching him hop around the track makes me think he\'ll go.  MS seems to be training that way to.  Interesting for sure

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 05:17:47 PM »
I forget how they load for the Derby.

Is it inside-outside 1-20,2-19,3-18 etc?

Post is tactically good for DC but if he has to sit in that gate waiting for 18 others.....

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 05:18:29 PM »
DC in post 20 kinda ensures a petty fast first quarter. Nyquist drew poorly being inside of main speeds Outwork and DC, race going to clubhouse turn will be interesting.

Smith admitted poor judgement dead sending DC in the SA derby,he\'ll go but not dead send this time.
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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 05:20:00 PM »
Load is 1-11, 2-12, 3-13 etc
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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 05:40:57 PM »
Why is that a bad draw for Nyquist? Presumably they\'re not going for the lead.
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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 05:47:20 PM »
Given there is not much speed inside of him, I imagine he will get a nice trip fairly close the rail. At some point he will have to find a seam, but I thought he drew well.

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 05:50:28 PM »
Agree he should be able to save ground

miff

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 05:51:08 PM »
Not a remote chance Nyquist is taking back at the break, by design.Except for one race where he was bumped at the break, he\'s going for forward position.

If you are tactical, you always want to be outside the certain speeds out of a chute/long straightaway.If you look at race shape,it appears on paper that DC and Outwork will be going and angling right where Nyquist figures to be heading....NFG for Nyquist if it plays out that way.

Having said that, the break can end up very different from what it looks like on paper.
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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 05:55:15 PM »
Agree, unless the plan for Nyquist is to do something he has never done before, this is a bad draw.

miff Wrote:
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> Not a remote chance Nyquist is taking back at the
> break, by design.Except for one race where he was
> bumped at the break, he\'s going for forward
> position.
>
> If you are tactical, you always want to be outside
> the certain speeds out of a chute/long
> straightaway.If you look at race shape,it appears
> on paper that DC and Outwork will be going and
> angling right where Nyquist figures to be
> heading....NFG for Nyquist if it plays out that
> way.
>
> Having said that, the break can end up very
> different from what it looks like on paper.

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2016, 05:55:43 PM »
right so one would assume Nyquist will have to go faster than they would like from the break, at least that\'s how I see it.

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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 05:58:50 PM »
Who said anything about taking him back? He figures to be a few lengths off the pace naturally, and there may be a big hole there.
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Re: Danzing Candy Post 20
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2016, 06:03:13 PM »
Very good JB, that hole better be there, that\'s the point. Can he clear the inside and allow DC and Outwork go over him and sit.


.....sounds ez, but with 20 in the gate, never know.
miff