Whitney/Dandy Figs

[Saddlecloth]

I doubt you have put together the figs from the weekend, but Beyer did, and he has the Whitney with very strong numbers, and the Dandy, while run a full second faster was considerably lowere rated.  In fact Sarava is the key, he ran his new career best by 5 lengths according to Beyer.  Is this correct?

[TGJB]

Won\'t be getting to this until at least tomorrow, and leaving for Sar right after (working on the train). Ask me next week.

[TGJB]

I did the days out of order. Roses In May paired his top, PD ran 1/2 point off his, Bowman a point off his, Sarava paired his. Purge ran a hair worse than Perfect Drift did. The track was sealed after the 5th Saturday, then unsealed before the next dirt race (seventh). The two days were independent.

[phil45]

\" PD ran 1/2 point off his\"

Is this off his top from this year or his all time top.  Just wondering, as the two are quite a bit different.


thanks



Post Edited (08-10-04 19:54)

[TGJB]

Lifetime top, in all cases.

[Silver Charm]

> PD ran 1/2 point off his lfetime top, Purge ran a hair worse than Perfect Drift did.

OK, I know what The Cliffs Edge ran in the Blue Grass, Birdstone is fresh, and Lion Heart was neg 1 1/2 in the Haskel Prep. Looks like an unbelievable Travers.

Smarty Who???

[phil45]

thanks for the clarification.  much appreciated

[Saddlecloth]

Thank you, obviously the numbers in relation though were alot closer than the spread in the beyer figs, which was what I suspected.

[JJP]

SC-

Sorry but Smarty is decidedly better than the above mentioned 3YOs.  Purge has already tried facing Smarty several times and look what happened.  Same with Lion Heart.  Birdstone had a very favorable pace scenario in a race run at an irrelevant distance.  Yeah they just ran nice numbers but they had to get away from SJ to do it.

[Silver Charm]

Did not mean to disrespect your Hero. But Smarty is gone and Great Racing lives on. I won\'t be sitting around Travers Day saying where\'s Smarty.

Like DRF Ed-in-Chief Steve Christ(sic) stated in his excellant column Saturday, Smarty will not go in the Hall of Fame five years from now, he didn\'t do enough to deserve it.

[JJP]

That\'s true, and a lot of it is because his peers weren\'t very good.

[Saddlecloth]

That does not seem like a fair assesment at this point, both purge and lion heart seem like runners to me.  better then anything point given beat except for congaree. Its a little early to make such a blanket statement.

Smarty will never sniff the hall of fame.

[cozzene]

Gentlemen

Now that Lion Heart has a jockey who is not afraid maybe we will see the real Lion Heart.  The one that should have won the Derby and Preakness.

Thank You

Cozzene

[Lucy]

why is it every year there are these posts about it being a horrible 3 yr old crop?
could somebody please give me a short list of a few of the years when it wasn\'t weak?

re: lion heart
he\'s a real nice horse and he ran a great race in the derby -- he just got beat, that\'s all.
they pretty much all get beat on occasion.
had smarty stuck around, maybe lion heart would\'ve turned the tables on him later in the year.
we\'ll never know.....

[JJP]

Here\'s a few strong 3YO crops: 1987, 1984, 1997, 1985