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Roman

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Rail for Kentucky Derby
« on: May 06, 2025, 05:41:53 PM »
Jerry mentioned the turf rail possibly being dead , and after watching the replay a few times of the derby, every horse that was on or near the rail from the 1/2 mile pole to the wire either stopped running or looked like they were running on quick sand.

I think the \"He did not handle the surface\" excuse is used way to often, but being on the inside part of the track looked like a major dis-advantage.

So the question for the TG team , if there was a severe bias and being wide was the place to be, is the adjustment for being wide on the turns the same?

TGJB

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Re: Rail for Kentucky Derby
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2025, 06:11:40 PM »
I’ll just say this for now. I finished Friday, and from the point where they sealed the track on, there was a dead rail.

Still working on Saturday, which is one of the toughest big race days I’ve ever had to deal with. Taking a close look at rails on both dirt and grass.

You don’t use the horses that raced on a dead rail to make variants. Which reduces the usable data.
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Dudley2

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Re: Rail for Kentucky Derby
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2025, 06:18:41 PM »
TGJB- for the main track rail I am very interested to see what fig you assign to Burnham Square. Rail aside, do you account for troubled trips?
I hope you give him a solid 6 or 7! 😄 Because those of us with eyes to see, will make some hay from that in his next out!

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Re: Rail for Kentucky Derby
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2025, 08:25:49 PM »
Biggest display of rail bias was the Churchill downs sprint IMO.
Banishing was coming with a head of steam Ortiz brought him inside and his momentum completely changed.
Allowing Mindframe to get up.