Author Topic: Are Racehorses Getting Slower, Part 1  (Read 995 times)

Chuckles_the_Clown2

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Re: Are Racehorses Getting Slower. Not in Kentucky
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2005, 10:00:23 AM »
bravisimo silver, you said it all

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Re: Are Racehorses Getting Slower. Not in Kentucky
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2005, 10:48:22 AM »
Damon Thayer is a 35 year old \"good old boy\" and a control freak from a racing family in Kentucky. I have had to deal with him personally in regard to my band performing at the Breeders Cup, an event we performed at (with high regard from horsemen and fans alike) from 1998-2001 until he took over the reigns. In his typically dictatorial style, he chose to hire a ( now retired )drunk because the drunk was \"a legend\" and to soothe his own ego with regard to controlling people. His efforts have gone to the extreme of sueing anyone who uses the term \"Breeders\' Cup\" on their websites. Imagine that - free publicity for racing and he wants to sue those who want to help the game!

The fact that the Derby was won by a New York bred and a PA bred the last 2 years was  equivilant to the Tsunami disater in the egotistical minds of Thayer and his cronies. Look folks, if it were not for the Derby and its mass marketing of an overhyped 2 minute race, Louisville would be just another hic-town in the middle of nowhere and guys like Thayer would be lucky to be flipping burgers for a living, that is unless they could get into the slave trading business. O wait, they already are in that business. You know, some things about racing haven\'t changed since 1875 and as long as guys like him are running the show, they never will.


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Re: Are Racehorses Getting Slower. Not in Kentucky
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2005, 07:30:11 AM »
The fact that Ky Politics is run by Daddys\' Boy, Boss Hogg politicians like Damon Thayer should be no surprise to anyone.

The fact that critical Racing Decisions that will impact the future of the industry not just in Ky but nationwide are controlled by the Boss Hogg\'s of the world and \"Who has bought off Who\" should be no surprise to anyone.

The fact that this years KY Derby winner, Oaks winner, Blue Grass Stakes winner and nearly all other Stakes races in Ky will be won by horses running with close to a half dozen performance enhancing substances in their systems that are banned in most major racing jurisdictions should be no surprise to anyone.

The fact that the biggest newspaper in the state of Ky creates a city-wide emergency when the Mens basketball coach has gas in his stomach but considers \"milkshakes\" in the stomach of race horses at the local race track a non-story should be a surprise to no one.

What is a surprise is how in the world the most recent incident where One Rocket was drugged, ran far superior to his previous form, has turned into a Rebate Shop Story. There are plenty of small-time inside jobs going on everyday where drugs are involved. Where have the Woodward and Bernstein types and fist pounding Editors in the Racing Media disappeared too?

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Re: Are Racehorses Getting Slower. Not in Kentucky
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2005, 10:44:34 AM »
Silver, if you\'re sensing them circling the wagons, so am I. But, I think the conspirators are going to be arraigned today. More news should break. They\'ve implied theres more arrests to come. We can\'t let the horseracing industry launch into the ___ propaganda/spin/distortion cycle. We know what this is about. Its about who attacked our game and harmed us. Let\'s not let them take our eye off the ball because they have a different agenda. Lets not let them deceive us because they have and want to keep cozy arrangements. We have to get involved this time.

CtC



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enough already chuckles
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2005, 12:40:28 PM »
Ctc,

Enough already with your stupid political comments, huh.  Noboby on a horse racing board needs to hear \"Bush propagand/spin/distortion\" crap.  Why don\'t you see if you can get a job consulting on Michael Moorer\'s next movie?  

Plenty of horse topics to talk about, especially now with this scandal.

Chuckles_the_Clown2

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Re: enough already chuckles
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2005, 02:59:41 PM »
It was called an analogy Jimbo. You dont like it, but its true. We cannot allow the powers that be to manipulate and use us. TGJB indicated to not get into non horseracing things and I won\'t, but as an illustration of how important the current issue is I used the mass manipulations of that political issue for the imagery of what we face. So I\'m declining your advice, whether politically motivated or not. I\'m gonna do the right thing here. Assume all my posts have illustrations and Socratic implications. If you don\'t like that then don\'t read any CtC posts. Anyway, I edited that post to make it less political.

CtC



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Re: enough already chuckles
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2005, 03:34:59 PM »
I hear there\'s an opening at CBS. Maybe CtC should apply. I hear it\'s ok to have a political agenda on their medium.

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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2005, 04:34:47 PM »
Post edited due to the fact it appears the aggregate post counter is not working. I know i\'ve made more than zero posts.

I am sorry to see any of the old men from CBS retire. My guess is like Reasoner, Rather knows a thing or two about the horses. Its a funny thing about intellect. It helps in figuring anything out. Its too bad all can\'t share in it.



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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2005, 06:21:00 PM »
Isn\'t it interesting how appropriately named those two are:
REASONer
RATHER

Ok, back to horse related topics. I just couldn\'t resist. Please forgive me.

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At Least Somebody Gets It
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2005, 09:04:49 AM »

The issue is drugs first, rebates second. Thank you Ray Paulick. Your odds in the Eclipse Award Poll are surely improving.


http://opinions.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=26281


Chuckles_the_Clown2

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Re: At Least Somebody Gets It
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2005, 09:19:22 AM »
Thanks Silver,

This guy is good.

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Re: At Least Somebody Gets It
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2005, 02:36:03 PM »
Some Kudos should also go out to trainer John Ward who is apparently the lone voice of reason in the recent Kentucky drug debates.

I just don\'t understand why there are not more John Wards out there. They are the ones really getting killed by all this and stand to benefit the most from positive change.

Chris

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Re: At Least Somebody Gets It
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2005, 02:39:31 PM »
Good luck to you and Mall in the contest.

TGJB

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Re: At Least Somebody Gets It
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2005, 03:29:43 PM »
Thanks.

Chris

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Re: At Least Somebody Gets It
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2005, 05:43:13 PM »
Same goes from me too Derby and Mall.

And Jason I heard you made it also. When I first met you, you weren\'t even old enough to be legally betting. I wondered whether I was sending you down the wrong road at such a young age.

You could read Sheets and bet big money back then like a cold blooded killer.

Bring your A game young fella you\'re in the Big-Time now.

Maybe I\'ll be seeing you and some the other boys on that new ESPN mini-series.

Sheet.