Strub

[Michael D.]

yea...... imp was very wide, he prob ran faster than RHT. i can\'t complain though, i knew going in that imp was going to lose ground. fun day, time for bed.

On the surface, I don\'t think the Strub was a particularly impressive performance for anyone. It certainly wasn\'t anywhere near the caliber of Ghostzapper, St. Liam or RIM at his best. I\'ll reserve my final opinion until I examine the pace and final time to see if the group at least moved forward. They are still a lightly raced batch with  room for improvement.

If they haven\'t at least move forward, then I think there will some excellent \"bet against\" horses from out west when they run against the best from the east.

[Michael D.]

just watched the replay.... 13.6 last eighth. this race completely collapsed. on surface, looks weak for a grade 2. i wouldn\'t be surprised if imp only ran in the \"2\" range (or a touch quicker). if so, RHT was not impressive in the least.

At first glance, the pace seems like it was on the quick side. That might account for the slower last part. It wasn\'t extremely fast, but probably a little faster than average. I doubt the race comes back very fast regardless. Most of these horses were mediocre and the top two didn\'t bury them. Plus they only ran 4/5 faster than the 3yos -who weren\'t an especially fast group to begin with. My guess is that the race was a little quicker that the top two have been running recently, but slower than the par for the designation.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I dont\' think he\'ll beat Eddington anymore. If Purge isn\'t washed up a return to 3 year old form will beat RHT. Don\'t get me wrong, he\'s a useful horse, but theres 10 horses out their right now that will handle him. I hope they keep bangin him to 2-1, because hes one of the worst 2-1 horses with a big following I\'ve ever seen.

I was so busy this past weekend, I even forgot to look at TGraphs ROTW...lol At least it confirmed by 70-1 flyer bet on My Creed. Thanks Alan, I like the way you handicap...lol

CtC



Post Edited (02-07-05 11:17)

[fasteddie]

Hindsight being 20-20....Love of Money (to me) was a HUGE bet-against ( I played Imperialism). Loaded with talent, got to the races late, runs big figs, then after a big Pa. race, is thrown to the lions in NY, eaten alive, and not seen again for 4 months! That race really hurt him, and no amount of works by any \"supertrainer\" was going to have him tight enough for that field; will be interested to see if he moves forward, or disappears again....the next Toccet?? Probably not..

Chuckles,

> I hope they keep bangin him to 2-1, because hes one of the worst 2-1 horses with a big following I\'ve ever seen.<

He is hyped, but I think you want to bet against him so badly, you aren\'t evaluating his prospects correctly when he\'s running against other weak horses.  A garbage can is worth 2-1 against rusty dented garbage cans. :-)

Even his fast PA race was the result of  loose lead in a slow pace. That performance was overrated.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I\'m not a complete moron class....I had My Creed for the mininum top in exotics with the top two choices just in case. I hooked him up lightly in second and third behind them and fourth in a very meagerly spread Super. He didn\'t fire his best. I\'d hoped for about a Tgraph 2 and I dont think he ran it. He\'s not the worlds worst horse, even if not up to those, but I dont think he threw his best race.

To those that bet on RHT and cashed it was a pace situation score. I\'m certain you pace devotees understand that. As far as 4-5\'s go he was a very poor wager, only circumstances got him up. Certainly not his quality vs. that field...lol I\'m hoping they pound him to 2-1 in for the handicap step up. Maybe I\'m being optimistic he can take that much money.

Did you see what the Superfecta paid?...They murdered RHT at the windows. They got him this time. Lets see who gets him next, though Imperialism is not a bad horse on his best day.

[Michael D.]

if LOM stays sound (a huge if), he will most likely run a few more huge figs sprinting (and maybe a few routing). the horse is flat out fast...

class,
the Pa race was not that slow of a pace. that was a brilliant run for a lightly raced three year old. i think he ran about :47 for the first half, and still ran a blazing final time. in the strub, i don\'t think the horse enjoyed the company on the front end though. he got nervous and just took off. horses with sprinter type pedigrees (dam has a dosage of 11.0) who are facing pace pressure for the first time going long are risky propositions. still, let him run alone on a :47 pace next time he routes, and i bet he keeps going.... either way, that was a tough betting race.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Michael,

If RHT just got beat 3 lengths in his return off a four month layoff, they\' say he needed a race. (I know he won the Malibu under similar time off) Lukas was set to speed pop Saturday. He had that Bob and Bev\'s Storm Cat ready to change tactics and fire and thats what he did. He was looking for a very good day. Those were very fast fractions in the Strub and Love of Money, provided he\'s right, is one of many that is gonna kick RHT\'s butt the rest of the year.

One last thing. RHT is gonna be useful as long as they dont try and stretch him. This last race was his limit.



Post Edited (02-07-05 18:17)