ROTW

[Silver Charm]

Thanks for the selection SPA.

I feel like a winner already.

[xichibanx]

SC,

I see I\'m not the only one who is zigging when he should be zagging.

Oh well.

As for the ROTW I\'m going to take a shot with the 6 if he is 6/1 or higher.  I don\'t really like Castledale or Singletary and the others (2,3,5) I can see in positive and negative lights.  I wouldn\'t be suprised if any of them won but I\'ll take the price.  #6 has decent European form and a possiblity of improvement at a price in a race where I feel the favorites are not locks.

Good Luck,

xichibanx

[twoshoes]

Isn\'t it somehow comforting that when all is said and done and all informed opinions aside that the odds board still has the last say? Singletary and the fence at 5-1. Right play win or lose.

[cubfan0316]

singletary has no chance.

[Michael D.]

with the AttZ scratch, that was a pretty easy $7 winner. singletary ran well, and will be very tough to beat when he cuts back to mile

Brilliant strategy by trainer Chatlos and rider Flores to give their main competition a clear early lead in a paceless race and turn it into a 3 furlong sprint with the other horse having a length and a half lead....NOT!    

[cubfan0316]

i really would like to see that photo.i cant beleive the 3 was second.

[Michael D.]

class,
i\'m afraid singletary would have flattened out late if he ran faster earlier. SR is the better 9f horse.

Michael,

I also thought Singletary was suspect at 9F, but this strategy virtually guaranteed a loss unless the front runner threw in a real stinker and Singletary inherited the lead.

How could they think they would outkick a horse that would have a 1 1/2 length lead in a crawling pace when their own horse is suspect in the last furlong to begin with?

I would have considered playing Singletary at 4-1/5-1 until I read that they were taking him back. Thanks for pointing that out. You saved me a few dollars. If only you talked me into the winner.

[Michael D.]

something tells me the frankel horse in the third would have won this race by a few lengths.

[jimbo66]

Good hit Michael.  I was out and missed the race, but I have to agree with the guy who posted that at 4/5 to 1, Singletary was a good bet.  I know the 1 1/8 was suspect, but he was co-fastest and a good price in a short field.  

I don\'t want to get Class started, but this was the second major turf race this weekend where \"pace made the race\".  Cool Conductor yesterday and Sweet Return today.  

5-2 was fair, with all the money that Castledale took.

I am guessing that a lot of TGraph users got burned on that tight photo, because when you look at the figures and closing odds, you are pretty compelled to box Singletary and Sweet Return.  

Michael, I guess i wasn\'t as impressed as you with the Frankel horse in the 3rd.  He closed a ton, but the horse he got by late was an allowance horse who usually stops on a dime.  Singletary is a BC winner and Sweet Return is a grrade 1 winner.    

[Michael D.]

jim,
will be interesting to see how TG puts #\'s on those two races. if you make them clean speed figures, three valleys probably gets the better #. it\'s likely TG will make a major pace adjustment on the stakes race though, and make it much faster. BTW, TV is a very well bred juddmonte farms horse. timeform of 119 in his second start - you don\'t see that too often. he ran a length faster than AttZ in the citation last year (would have been more if he had clear run in the stretch). i\'m sure he will be with the big boys next out, will be interesting.

[Silver Charm]

Good call by TG regarding the poor pattern Castledale had prior to his last big effort and therefore being a very vulnerable favorite. He really never got into the race.

The whole race came down to Sweet Return being as fast as any of the three big contenders and being the lone speed. Period.

Singletary briefly tried to go after him, and it probably cost him second.
Forty Niners Son never tried to win just get the best placing possible.

 

Jimbo,

\"I don\'t want to get Class started, but this was the second major turf race this weekend where \"pace made the race\". Cool Conductor yesterday and Sweet Return today. \"

Not to mention the Salvator mile at MTH.

\"5-2 was fair, with all the money that Castledale took. \"

That \"was\" a fair price. I was sort of kicking myself for not taking it after the race. I was a little less negative on Castledale than some people because I think he\'s getting better and had decent chance of running well again, but they overbet him  by a lot. Even if you felt very confident that he was going to fire another big one (which I wasn\'t) he was still going to have to overcome the pace disadvantage. He was almost certainly an underlay as the favorite.

I was giving Sweet Return 30% of the race, Singletary 20%, and Castledale 20%.  

[jbelfior]

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I don\'t agree. SINGLETARY needs a target to run at. I used F&F to suck up second behind SWT RTRN, but he\'s probably better off going longer. With no pace to run at, he does not have the turn of foot to make an impact in that type of race.
Good effort by 49ERS SON who has the makings of a real good one.

Thank goodness Saratoga begins this week.



Good Luck,
joe B.