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TGJB

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Holy Smokes!
« on: October 03, 2005, 12:15:31 PM »
According to Bloodhorse.com, Tyler Baze was suspended by the Indiana stewards for failing a routine(!) pre-race breathalizer test before the Indiana Derby, and taken off Southern Africa. Which was a 500k race, by the way.

I\'m kinda thinking that might explain his recent lack of success, and maybe hurt his career a little bit. At least for a while.
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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2005, 01:06:17 PM »
TGJB,

I didn\'t even know that anyone checked for something like that.

I did have another thought though. Hoosier is evening racing. Isn\'t is possible he went out for dinner after the afternoon racing and had a couple of glasses of wine with dinner not knowing they would check on something like that?  

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2005, 01:19:37 PM »
Class,

Maybe you should apply for a job as Baze\'s counsel.

So, you are now asking Jerry if it is possible that Baze went out to dinner that night and had wine, not knowing that they do breathalyzers.

Jerry, do you have a track man at all the restaurants near Hoosier?  Can you comment on the possibility that Baze had wine that night?  Can you also notate it in the sheets for the horses he has ridden in the past 3 months.


Sorry Class, but your post is a classic example of the inane stuff that shouldn\'t be on this board, especially with less than 4 weeks until the Breeders Cup.





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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2005, 01:20:39 PM »
It had been reported he was fighting an eating disorder in DRF about a month ago, but it sounded kind of fishy at the time...even moreso now.

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2005, 01:28:35 PM »
jimbo,

I\'m not asking anyone anything and I didn\'t bring the topic up!!!  

I\'m saying failing a breathalizer test isn\'t a mortal lock to mean he has a chronic drinking problem unless there have been rumors to that effect to begin with. Obviously, he must not have known about the test otherwise not only was he drunk, but he\'s dumb too. That\'s why I am suggesting that given the time frame of the race (evening), perhaps a few drinks with dinner caused the test failure without being an indication of a big and chronic problem.

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2005, 01:31:54 PM »
Jimbo-- yes, we do have trackmen at the restaraunts and parking lots, but we had to do an estimate because he was weaving in and out.

Beyerguy-- Drinking disorder?

I\'ll tell you, it\'s funny, but it ain\'t funny. Those things weight 1,000 pounds, and don\'t have brakes.
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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2005, 01:32:22 PM »
gee I would be wondering why the topic heading on the original note was holy SMOKES

sorry that sounded like David rex

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2005, 01:35:47 PM »
No, they actually said eating disorder, and he allegedly lost a bunch of weight and had no strength.  This was supposed to be the reason for his Dmr slump.

Who knows what is happening, maybe he did go out for dinner and had a little wine, and didn\'t eat anything, LOL!

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2005, 01:37:25 PM »
We\'ll have to wait for Jerry\'s track to man to be sure.......


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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2005, 01:52:23 PM »
TGJB Wrote:
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> According to Bloodhorse.com, Tyler Baze was
> suspended by the Indiana stewards for failing a
> routine(!) pre-race breathalizer test before the
> Indiana Derby, and taken off Southern Africa.
> Which was a 500k race, by the way.
>
> I\'m kinda thinking that might explain his recent
> lack of success, and maybe hurt his career a
> little bit. At least for a while.


It was also on bloodhorse.com recently. It was bulemia and he was down all the way to 100lbs. He supposedly got help for it

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2005, 09:44:21 PM »
The limit is .05 and apparently he blew over that.

Why anybody would drink or ingest anything that can even remotely impair motor functions while riding a 1000+ pd. animal 40 mph is beyond irresponsible.  Baze has some serious issues that need immediate help.
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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2005, 07:02:47 AM »
I suggest you read Jerry Bailey\'s auto bio...what is surprising to me is only that the other jocks allowed him out of the room.  but form my understanding of the SoCal jocks room, if 12 guys are going to dinner together, they need 25 cabs.

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2005, 08:19:30 AM »
When they start showing up drunk or high for afternoon cards it\'s time for a major suspension and treatment program. When they show up drunk for one evening card, nipping it in the bud seems fine to me. A week suspension and a long talk  seems appropriate to me. He\'s in his early 20s isn\'t he?

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2005, 08:52:31 AM »
socal?

its the same way at belmont, its not different from track to track.

drinking and riding horses go hand in hand, just most do it AFTER they get done riding, not before.

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Re: Holy Smokes!
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2005, 12:23:23 PM »
Geez, what an apologist.  How about thinking of the other jocks, horses, owners, trainers, and gamblers who could be affected by an inebriated jockey.  What the hell is wrong with you?  Suppose your assumptions are correct and he had \"a couple of glasses of wine\" with dinner.  A 100 lb. person with two drinks in one hour has a blood alcohol content of .075!  This is OK?  Oh, so getting drunk in the morning or afternoon is better than in the evening...my gosh.

The next time I see a pilot having a couple of beer \"in the evening\" before flying a plane, I\'ll tell him it\'s OK... just don\'t have a couple before the 8 AM flight.