Uh, Len...

[TGJB]

Re your comment about the figure \"that Shakespeare ran winning a big GI stake, a very weak number for that level of race that allowed us to confidently toss him out\". Please note that Ace came out of that same race, received an even worse figure, and finished second yesterday. English Channel also came out of that race, and he beat every single American horse, despite being wide both turns yesterday.

Re your comment about Borrego and the \"poor\" Gold Cup figure-- yeah, right. We tossed Borrego because he was extremely likely to bounce. Two others that came out of that race, whom you gave horrible figures to, were Flower Alley (second), and Suave (lost a 3 way photo for third, beaten 3 lengths by the best horse in training, on both our figures) in the BC Classic. Try again.

But I am glad you are getting into the spirit of things, and now willing to discuss figures. I look foward to seeing your BC figures when you post them.

[Silver Charm]

thought this years analysis was best ever. everyone should read it because it truly a seminar of how to use tg and win.   also think this juvy crew is as good as year one with chiefs crown, spend a buc and tank.

[marcus]

Absolutely right , the overall presentation was awesome and there was something of handicapping interest for all levels of sheet players . The TGBC seminar and tutorial that Jerry gave on pattern analysis was cutting edge stuff , to know what the numbers mean specially w/ the ever tricky to read 2 yo\'s helps now and equally important , helps later down the road when viewing sheet\'s of older horses or a particular horse now as a 3 yo etc  .  

[jimbo66]

I think the Kudos go to Class, not Jerry.

Class was able to accomplish what nobody else has in the past 18 months that I have followed both boards.

He actually got Len to discuss a figure.  Not a real deep discussion, but \"baby steps\", nonetheless.

Unfortunately, I suspect it was a one time thing and not the start of a trend.  

It just shows you that Class is an equal opportunity \"annoyer\"...

[horsegoer]

Jerry,

What is your point? That Len said and gave \"poor/weak numbers\" to the mentioned horses? Becuase a horse was given a bad, poor or weak # does that mean his pattern is not good or he should not run well next out?

[TGJB]

Honestly, Beau, your posts are at such a low level of understanding they are almost impossible to answer. If you saw and understood my earlier posts-- specifically the one on the \"One More Pop Quiz\" string at 7 :12 P.M.-- you would know the answer yourself.

[horsegoer]

Jerry, I do agree that my post are not clear and concise. I will write future posts in such a way that they are easily understood.