TGJB-Barbaro in deep stretch

[miff]

Jerry,

When you do the day(GP saturday) please let us know if you found a different variant for sprints and routes(dirt) .It seems that the computer guys had that track playing plus 40 in sprints, (two fifths faster than par) and routes dead on par at 0, all adjusted.

Simply, they had sprints running a couple of lengths better (raw time) than routes, after adjustment.I know that you distinqiush sprints and routes for variant purposes.Thanks.

Mike

[big18741]

Thanks

I thought two paths.Time for me to get the eyes checked out.

[TGJB]

Miff-- haven\'t done it yet, but keep in mind that mile races there are 1 turn.

[miff]

Big,

I saw what Jerry posted also. I think Barbaro was just all out and feeling it. I did not see the real bi/bo that would make TG apply that comment.

A very astute trainer thinks Barbaro either tried to jump a shadow or was greenly trying to change leads when he took that funny step in midstretch.

[miff]

Yes, I know Jerry. I misspoke, I meant to say one turn vs two turn races which was what the geeks concluded on the split. Were there any mile dirt races that day? I think 4 two turn dirt races but I\'m away from my records, so I might be wrong.

[magicnight]

I\'ll take Olazabel. He is playing great right now and is a horse for that course.

[P-Dub]

No offense taken.

He\'s obviously talented, but he just doesn\'t seem to be a Derby type of horse to me.  I think there are better horses out there that have been prepped better or are just plain better.  Discreet Cat looks very interesting to me (he would support your angle regarding preps).

Its always fun to throw things around this time of year, but who really thought Giacomo would win last year??  Good luck....

[Silver Charm]

Barbaro is Tapit with a chestnut coat.

Matz is Dickinson without the syringes.

[P.Eckhart]

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Matz is Dickinson without the syringes.

If Monica Dickinson knew her son was mixing with bad boys she\'d have his trousers down in public and skelp his arse red raw.

[NoCarolinaTony]

Thanks Jerry, that is what I thought I saw too. I kept looking at he video without the benefit of the headon but thought in fact that Prado eased off him once he knew he had it in the bag.

NC Tony

[bobphilo]

Tony,

I got the same impression from watching the replay of the stretch run. What\'s more, if you notice how they galloped out past the finish line you\'ll see that Sharp Humor had little left compared to Barbaro who seemed to fly away from him as he continued to gallup out strongly.

Bob

[bellsbendboy]

Would not put much into the difference in galloping out between the two Bob. Sharp Humor had no two turn races and had every right being tired, on the other hand Barbaro has always been a couple of bends, although he would have to be a complete freak to get ten furlongs next month with that pedigree. Good luck. bbb

[miff]

BBB SAID

\"Would not put much into the difference in galloping out between the two Bob. Sharp Humor had no two turn races and had every right being tired, on the other hand Barbaro has always been a couple of bends, although he would have to be a complete freak to get ten furlongs next month with that pedigree. Good luck. bbb\"

HELP!!
There have been conflicting views posted here about Barbaros distance breeding.Is he or is he not bred for the DERBY trip. Breeding guys please respond. Thanks.

[TGJB]

Miff-- I\'m not done with Fla Derby day yet, but there is no appreciable difference between 1 and 2 turn races on this one. There was, however, wind behind them down the backstretch and on the stretch turn (8 o\'clock wind, about 10 mph), which speeds up the sprints a little, especially the 7 and 7 1/2 f races. Also, your friends may use a slightly different speed chart than we do.

[miff]

Thanks Jerry,

The wind and your explanation may be the only slight difference. In looking at the raw times of the one turn races, the times seemed fast but there were some fast horses on that card also.

Mike