The What Percent Solution

[NoCarolinaTony]

Jerry

1) What authorities would be the right ones? The Police? The FBI? The Track Security? Elliott Spitzer\'s office? Until they improve testing and or get cought  by being stupid...(Steve ASSMan) you would think the way people get burned in day to day life someone would have spilled their guts out of revenge or to get out of trouble by now on some of these guys. Even the Mafia today spills their guts- unlike yesteryear

2- How has CAL tried the hardest to stop drugs (Serious Question) we know it\'s not the milkshake issue that is the big Jump up item today..although thats what they hope we are all stupid enough to believe it is.Most typically believe we knows its either EPO or Some form of Steriods. They cycle on,  improve while resting (ie not racing) stop taking drug run good early until the stuff wears off and they go on the bench again or break down.

Like I said I thought you would have factored in the Drug Issue some way shape or form. I didn\'t think you really believed it was but eliminated at DelMAR so I find that point very interesting information.

[TGJB]

Tony--

1-- Any and all, whoever has jurisdiction. I think in Jersey it was the state police in the EPO harness case.

2-- As I said here before, it was milkshakes, administered differently. Among other things, they sent letters to the guys who were over 36 (way higher than possible without drugs) but lower than 37 (level necessary to have a positive and get sanctions). There\'s a move afoot-- which I STRONGLY agree with-- to publish ALL CO2 results.

[marcus]

NCT -  The mafia wouldn\'t rat people out in \'yesteryear nor would they fix horse race\'s ... and I didn\'t have to or read the Valachi Papers to know that -  even the mafia drew a line . \'Nowdays I agree , it\'s different - anything goes .

I know you and others are big on old sayings and so am I and was just now remembering one from the \" Godfather pt II \" after reading your mob reference  - ( and  to paraphrase  ) \" WOMEN and CHILDREN  can be reckless with their words but MEN must be careful what they say at all times \" ... ask  someone you know if you doubt that - they\'ll tell you  .

I don\'t think anyone should stop betting becouse of the situation now or when things get cleaned up - lets keep all the money in the handle and fill-up the betting pools ...  

[asfufh]

Letters from individual bettors won\'t mean diddly squat.
A letter/demand from a horseplayers association with plenty of members would scare the crap out of them and would also generate all kinds of publicity. Following up with targeting certain tracks with wagering boycotts on specific days would quickly get results.
Now, who\'s good at herding cats?
Asfufh

[marcus]

 I can belive what your saying about the letters and mildly surprised about the  potential for boycott - I agree with it in principle as a good faith gesture but the bottom line might just add up to job security for track public relations people or maybe even have the unintended result of hurting the innocent Horsemen and Horseplayers who have done nothing wrong  .