Barbaro put down

[MO]

This just in on NBC news: Barbaro euthanised. He put up a great fight.

[Silver Charm]

>He put up a great fight.

Agreed. And so did the team who was taking care of him for the last eight months.

I personally am actually a little relieved. There becomes a point in time where it actually becomes, is it treatment or torture.

[fkach]

What makes this so sad is that it was such an emotional roller coast ride. This has to be especially tough on the connections and everyone involved in his care after his recovery looked so promising at one point.

[bobphilo]

While we all knew from the start that it woukd likely end this way, one couldn\'t help feeling every time he rallied from a crisis that he was going to make it.
Goodbye and R.I.P. Barbaro, we won\'t see another one like you again.

Bob

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

He was a pretty good racehorse in a weakish crop. The important thing is that he will not pass on his afflictions. Rarely will you see a horse so gingerly managed. If they have to be that gingerly managed its a sure sign that something is amiss. It would have been nice to have another Dynaformer, son of Roberto, son of Hail to Reason, son of Turn To, son of Royal Charger, son of NEARCO go to stud, but moments into the Preakness it was clear it was not meant to be. They did far too much. The amount of painkiller they pumped into him these past months could get all of the patrons in the old Hong Kong opium dens high. They finally did the right thing, but they sure didn\'t want to let go of the profit.

Everyone will have their unique memories of Barbaro. Mine is having him beat me in the Florida Derby, Beat me in the Kentucky Derby and betting against him so heavily in the Preakness that I was electrified with certainty when he busted the Preakness gate and knew that he was already a defeated horse. I saw a subdued quality in his post gate break mannerisms and rushed to get even more bets down. I wasn\'t able to, but the race unfolded well nevertheless.

A very memorable Preakness.

RIP Barbaro, you were a brave animal  

[Michael D.]

Chuckles_the_Clown2 Wrote:
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> He was a pretty good racehorse in a weakish crop.
> The important thing is that he will not pass on
> his afflictions. Rarely will you see a horse so
> gingerly managed. If they have to be that gingerly
> managed its a sure sign that something is amiss.
> It would have been nice to have another
> Dynaformer, son of Roberto, son of Hail to Reason,
> son of Turn To, son of Royal Charger, son of
> NEARCO go to stud, but moments into the Preakness
> it was clear it was not meant to be. They did far
> too much. The amount of painkiller they pumped
> into him these past months could get all of the
> patrons in the old Hong Kong opium dens high. They
> finally did the right thing, but they sure didn\'t
> want to let go of the profit.
>
> Everyone will have their unique memories of
> Barbaro. Mine is having him beat me in the Florida
> Derby, Beat me in the Kentucky Derby and betting
> against him so heavily in the Preakness that I was
> electrified with certainty when he busted the
> Preakness gate and knew that he was already a
> defeated horse. I saw a subdued quality in his
> post gate break mannerisms and rushed to get even
> more bets down. I wasn\'t able to, but the race
> unfolded well nevertheless.
>
> A very memorable Preakness.
>
> RIP Barbaro, you were a brave animal  
>
>


TG, Beyer, and Rags all make the \'06 three year old crop the fastest ever. in fact, the other guy just posted it was \"much the best ever\"

and i\'m not sure how nice it would have been to have another son of dynaformer at stud. they\'ve pretty much all been failures.

it would have been nice if Barbaro just got to hang around for a while.

[bobphilo]

Chuckles,

While I agreed with you that Barbaro was not a good stud prospect owing to the possibility of his passing down genes for unsoundness, you have once again shown your complete lack of sensitivity by using the occasion of his death to point this out and to gloat over the fact that you “beat him” in the Preakness.

Your lame attempts to shock have grown pathetically sad. Give the bad boy act a rest.

Bob

[Barry Irwin]

Chuckles, you are unquestionably the most inappropriately named individual on the Internet.

Your memorial to Barbaro is a text book example of what happens to a horseplayer when his own sickness morphs from neurosis to psychosis.

The horse was the most masterfully prepared Kentucky Derby runner in the modern era.

He also was the easiest winner of the Kentucky in the last half century. No other runner had the Derby won so far from the wire. When did you ever see a horse breeze home in the Kentucky Derby?

His loss is huge for the breeding industry.

Keeping him alive had nothing to do with profit, which I am sure is a concept you cannot understand.

I are probably too old, but it is a shame your parents can not wash out your mouth with soap and send you to bed without dinner to teach you some manners and possibly knock some good sense into you.

[P-Dub]

CTC, if there is anything more pathetic and disgusting than you and your self serving rants.....lets just say there isn\'t.

This had nothing to do with breeding, racing, money, your wagering, etc...It was about the love and bond between human and animal. This was about doing everything possible to save the life of a special part of their family. At what point do you realize enough is enough, to make the difficult decision to euthanize a loved one??

Just last week, I was put in this same predicament. My beloved dog of 10 yrs was diagnosed with lung cancer, and her time was short. While talking with the vet, he said she wasn\'t ready to go and that I would have to determine when that time would come. I spent the next 3 days spoiling her, spending nearly every waking hour with her. On Thursday night, for the first time, she wasn\'t at the table during dinner. I went to find her, and the look in her eyes told me that her time had come. I made the same difficult decision the Jackson\'s had to make, and while extremely sad and devastated, I knew that I had made the right decision. I was not going to let my dog suffer through a miserable night and a more miserable next day. I stayed with her until she took her final breath, and I left the vets office knowing that I gave her the best life possible, and also knowing that I did right by her by not having her suffer. I know the Jacksons are extremely sad right now, but relieved that their beloved horse will not have to suffer any longer.

At some point I will go to the shelter and give a good home to a dog that needs one. But that dog will never replace Sasha and never erase the fond memories I have of her. And in due time, the Jacksons will have another colt come along that will bring joy to their lives but will never replace Barbaro or erase the fond memories the Jacksons have of him. My heartfelt condolences to the Jacksons, and thanks to all of you for letting me talk about my loss.

[marcus]

Watching the press conf yesterday from the equidaily link comfirmed what I already knew about their character of everyone involved with the Horse and the character of Barbaro himself and it was plain to me a  that the Jacksons , Dr R and entire Team really layed-out for Barbaro - as long as there was a chance for the horse , they went with it - all should be commended and given high awards of humaniterian letters deserving of such acts ...

fwiw - i\'ve expressed my own \"personal\" view and belief on this subject on previous threads before that (Winning a Triple Crown not-withstanding) - Winning the Kentucky Derby is the highest Level of acheivement or accomplishment a Race Horse can attain in a Racing Year  ,or in a Lifetime ...

ctc - the modern day zarthusera , i can ignore .

Sorry P-Dub about the news about Sasha  ...

[fkach]

Barry,

You summed up my sentiments perfectly.

I thought it was an especially big loss for the breeding industry because Barbaro was one of those very rare horses that seemed equally good on dirt, turf, and wet tracks. That\'s a pretty rare set of genes to pass down.

The idea that he was unsound or had some predisposition to break down is suspect at best. We do not know that. He may have simply taken a step that would have broken down any of the greats. Furthermore, even if he did possess some negative genetic trait that would have been passed on, it would not have been passed on to all his offspring. We are now missing out on all the great ones he may have produced that had perfect conformation, soundness, and diverse ability.  It was a tragic loss for the connections, health care providers, breeding industry, and fans.

[fkach]

I\'m sorry for your loss.

[fkach]

Chuckles,

Rather that beat up on you, I\'ll make a suggestion. I understand that not all people are animal lovers and form strong emotional attachments to them. If you understood that some people are and do, it would guide you in making more appropriate posts. I see no downside to that.

[richiebee]

\"The paths of glory lead but to the grave\"-- Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a
Country Churchyard.

\"All glory is fleeting\"-- General George S. Patton.

\"Grief is the price we all pay for love.\" Gretchen Jackson, breeder/owner of
Barbaro.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I\'ve listened to the debates about which horse would have won in matchups from different eras and though I have a non scientific opinion about that, I really don\'t think its worth the time spent in exchange.

I measure the three year old crop by how it fairs vs the elders, which admittedly is becoming more difficult to do with early retirements of both the handicap horses and their 3YO challengers. In that unit of measure I did not think the 2006 three year olds were much to get excited about. And in the Classics I thought there were downright mundane. If others think they were exceptional let them write their laurels.

I think the Dynaformer line is laced with genetics. I didn\'t say that I thought Dynaformer had been prolific. I said, it would have been nice for another one to
get a shot at stud.

Barry, I\'ve had my failures with undefeated horses. Took a bath on Smarty Jones in the Belmont when I had the winner etched in birdstone for second. I lost on Easy Goer when I shouldn\'t have lost. I took aim at Barbaro in the Preakness when he was being annoited and made myself well for failing to beat him earlier. It was a handicapping success I\'m proud of and though I wouldn\'t wish a breakdown upon any horse, they happen and they happen to horses managed like Barbaro. There isn\'t much room for emotion in horseracing, its nearly all profit planning. When you accuse me of callousness, why a pass for the connections of Barbaro? I was lame in the Florida and Kentucky Derbies but my pasterns made a remarkable recovery in the Preakness. Its a tough game, but you and I are still standing aren\'t we?

PDub, condolences upon the loss. If you weren\'t already a member of the \"Mr. Bojangles\" club, welcome.

fkach, there is also a silver lining to most every storm cloud. You just have to be able to recognize it through the rain.

Michael D. Wrote:
>
> TG, Beyer, and Rags all make the \'06 three year
> old crop the fastest ever. in fact, the other guy
> just posted it was \"much the best ever\"
>
> and i\'m not sure how nice it would have been to
> have another son of dynaformer at stud. they\'ve
> pretty much all been failures.
>
> it would have been nice if Barbaro just got to
> hang around for a while.