No Zito and no Baffert, but a Pletcher superfecta...

[JohnTChance]

If indeed: \"Advantage Gomez. And it isn’t even close.\" as that article states, then perhaps two brownie points should go to Gomez\' agent, Ron Anderson, who previously booked Jerry Bailey\'s mounts. Anderson doesn\'t sit on horses in the morning like Angel, but his handicapping apparently is influenced by the sheets. [The Rags, I think.]

JTC

[shanahan]

not so...he\'s a TG man!  they were talking about this with alan on racingjason last week.

[TGJB]

While it is true that other members of the Anderson family use our data, Ron (as far as I know) does not. Alan and I have been trying to track down what was said on Jason\'s show to find out if somebody knows something we don\'t.

[JohnTChance]

Perhaps Anderson does use ThoroGraph. However, FWIW, from the Rag web site:

February 07, 2004 - Eclipse Award winner Jerry Bailey called Anderson \"the best agent I\'ve ever had.\" \"Ron uses the Ragozin Numbers system better than anyone else,\" Bailey said. \"He can determine 95% of the time when a horse will or will not run his A race. He doesn\'t ask me a whole lot to choose between horses, and I like that. It\'s one of the things I don\'t want to get involved in.\"

JTC

[miff]

TGJB,


Surprised that you do not know that Len Friedman has written/stated that Ron Anderson is a Sheets user.Anyway,I wonder how using the Sheets would work out if he booked mounts for Chantal Sutherland instead of Garrett Gomez.



Mike

[TGJB]

There is no question that Ron uses Ragozin. Which was why it was news to us--as Alan said on the air-- that he was using our stuff. Two other members of his family use TG, which made it possible he was looking at ours as well-- we\'re trying to track it down.

[shanahan]

I listened to the exchange last saturday, Jason was the one who initiated the Anderson thought, alan was neither confirming nor denying, if it was just a plug for TG - so be it.  didn\'t mean to start a big deal over it...but Andersen is the best handicapper on the planet according to several sources.

[ronwar]

http://www.racingjason.com/

previous week is archived. Nice show.  I enjoy hearing Alan\'s thought process when analyzing his picks

[ajkreider]

I keep hearing that Scat is slow, and his numbers don\'t jump off the page, to be sure.  But he\'s not that slow.  He has, after all, run the two quickest times of any of the Derby runners at 1 1/8 (and by a fair amount).  His time in the Fla. Derby was almost exactly the same as Barbaro\'s last year, with a bit quicker fractions (except the last).  And, it\'s not like Gulf runners can\'t handle the Churchill surface (Monarchos, anyone?).

As to his getting trounced in the BCJ and the Holy Bull, it bears mentioning that SS and Nobiz were foaled in February and January respectively - while Scat (and Hard Spun) was a May foal.  That\'s a big gap for juvies.  

He\'s closed a torrid pace (FOY), and stalked a quick pace (FD).  If he\'s going at double digits, he\'ll get at least some of my money.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

shanahan Wrote:
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...but Andersen is the
> best handicapper on the planet according to
> several sources.

Debatable, but in assessing Anderson\'s handicapping ability aren\'t you missing the fact that he did not get to select which horse Gomez will ride in the Derby? Isn\'t the fact that he was served up \"leftovers\" closer to the truth? If the Gomez vs. Velasquez abbreviated study in fact does reflect a diffence in ability among those two jockeys and AGS does outfinish Circular Quay or even win are you really going to attribute the feat of selecting the Derby winner to Anderson\'s handicapping \"prowess\"? There would certainly be some credit to dispense in that scenario, but I wonder how many people would give a share to Anderson?

lol

CtC