Hard Spun Works in a Blazing 57.60

[MO]

When I looked at his sheet I wondered if he was a Laurel freak who might not like CD. This workout dispels any such notion. This horse is scary. Very scary. And at the price (10 -15 to 1?) a must use.

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RICH Wrote:
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> hate to harp on this, but hard spun does not have
> the perfect sheet, he\'s stuck, and let me tell
> you, 3 or 4 same numbers in a row, i say off,
> before the move

Maybe that depends on how you view poly. At 15-1 I\'ll take the view that the poly pair up is effectively a slight move forward.

[big18741]

Larry Jones at Churchill Downs:

5% trainer

9% tops
19% pair
32% off
40%  X

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Maybe, but a good horse changes figures pretty quick.

After some more research the work still bothers me, but will defer final opinion for a couple days. Man he did it easy.

This is gonna be one hell of a horse race.

big18741 Wrote:
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> Larry Jones at Churchill Downs:
>
> 5% trainer
>
> 9% tops
> 19% pair
> 32% off
> 40%  X

[Flighted Iron]

Clarification on the locale of the move there beer drinker.CD was the site.
He\'s no Spend A Buck,so I say he\'s toast.

[Flighted Iron]

I\'d say your accurate regarding the horse.Disagree on the rider view.

[Flighted Iron]

There\'s good horses and trainers and then there\'s GOOD horses and trainers.
Layoff smayoff.Do you see CQ blowing his wad in the morn?Heck no! He\'s saving it
all for the afternoon of the 5th.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Circular Quay doesn\'t really have the speed to work brilliantly. That said, he does have back end sprint speed. He won a couple big 2YO sprints with the same style he exhibited in the B.C.Juvenile and the Louisiana Derby. The problem may be that is what he is a \"back end sprinter\"...a la Silver Wagon. He\'s gonna have to prove it Saturday and do so coming in off schedule. I\'ll take a position against him and his \"Sure thing\" distance breeding.

Good Luck

Flighted Iron Wrote:
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> There\'s good horses and trainers and then there\'s
> GOOD horses and trainers.
> Layoff smayoff.Do you see CQ blowing his wad in
> the morn?Heck no! He\'s saving it
> all for the afternoon of the 5th.

[fkach]

I typcially love when lightly raced horses show improved works, but I can\'t see how going 22 44+ 57.2 is the proper preparation for a horse trying to stretch out to 10F.

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\"Hard Spun (five furlongs in 57.53): Certainly the most talked about work of the day. With jockey Mario Pino aboard, Hard Spun went in company with Wildcat Bettie B, a Grade 1-winning sprinter who like Hard Spun hails from the barn of trainer Larry Jones. The pair came away from the pole full of run and had the clockers\' watches smoking after posting opening fractions of 10.88 and 22.00. Hard Spun had already begun to separate himself from his mate approaching the quarter pole and continued to pour it on despite fanning wide and while under little urging from his rider. By the time Hard Spun reached the eighth pole in 44.52, Wildcat Bettie B had been left in the dust. But the early pace took its toll on Hard Spun and he needed 13.01 to complete his final furlong while under steady urging, then had little left for a gallop out that saw him pull up six furlongs in 1:12.97. As was the case with Liquidity and Cobalt Blue on Friday, fast times don\'t necessarily make the best works, and while Hard Spun seemed within himself at least for the opening half-mile, it remains to be seen what kind of toll this type of work will take on a young horse who must come back and run 1 1/4 miles\"



.....translation, put a fork in him.


Mike

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Maybe he\'s sitting on an explosive effort and the work is exactly what was needed to take the edge off, so he doesn\'t do exactly what many people here think he\'s gonna do, run too hard early and burn himself out. He may be a much smarter horse than he\'s getting credit for, and same for Jones & Pino. Every move they have made so far may be just what Spunny needed, and they have done the horse right.

The various reasons given so far to toss him have been weak at best, especially considering the expected price. If he drew inside in the Southwest race and if he won by a wider margin at Turway he would be coming in with more Curlin-like hype and low odds.

[Uncle Buck]

This horse is a War Chant type. Damn nice animal but for the Kentucky Friggin\' Derby Nascar Race, I won\'t be using him on any tickets

[bobphilo]

22.00, 44.00, 57.53. No horse alive can be expexted to finish fast after splits like that. His workmate (a Gr1 4Y0) straggled home 10 lengths behind and still had the 2nd fastest work of the day.

Bob

[reboundman]

Smarty\'s last work was 58 - that was the fastest I could find over the last few years for 5f. Funny Cide\'s was 58.4, Proud Citizen\'s 58.4. None quite as fast as Hard Spun\'s, though, FWIW...

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reboundman Wrote:
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> Smarty\'s last work was 58 - that was the fastest I
> could find over the last few years for 5f. Funny
> Cide\'s was 58.4, Proud Citizen\'s 58.4. None quite
> as fast as Hard Spun\'s, though, FWIW...


Nice work. Noted those 3 all rated kindly just off the pace in the derby and finished strong, and all came back to run the top figs of their respective Preakness fields.

I\'m entertaining the possibility that Jones knows what he has and is just throwing everyone for a loop by saying stuff like \'we\'re definitely going to the Blue Grass\" or \"we\'re skipping the derby\" which annoys media people like Beyer who claims;

\"Hard Spun has the talent and should have been kept on a steady course to the Derby. But it\'s hard for me to like him with this management.\"

What exactly about his management is Beyer criticizing? The six week gap into the derby? The poly prep? The fast work?

Maybe Jones is making rookie mistakes, but maybe he\'s purposely trying to be unpredicatable during this whole pathetic media circus surrounding the 2 minutes in question, and he has a fresh fit horse for the TC. I\'ll keep my focus primarily on the figs & the odds.