No Go On Pyro

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Do they want Pyro to run faster than a \"1\"?

I think a more accurate question is if you toss the Monmouth figure and factor the Poly: \"Can Pyro run better than a 3?\"

I\'m hoping and praying Pyro blows them out, but I consider that result somewhat unlikely. The problem is that its Poly and theres no structure for isolating the horses that will vanquish him.



Michael D. Wrote:
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> I think Pyro is going to run well, but do they
> want faster than \'1\'? and will they instruct
> Bridgemohan to stay clear? tough call at even
> money.
>
> Monba (15-1 ml) might be ready for a top. \'8\'
> first out over the surface, and a decent run in
> the Hol stks race on synth. bred to go long on
> bottom. decent post. could get a 2w/2w \'3\' or
> \'4\'.
>
> I had Visionaire as my key before the draw. what
> is Lezcano going to do from post 12? drop to last
> and make one run? tough task.
>
> I\'m with Monba at decent odds.

[Uncle Buck]

Holy cow. I just got home after 13 hours at a family wedding. I played my BG ticket heavy before I left. Just watched the race. CHA CHING! DANG that was nice. Nothing like a favorable Tivo session! Hope everyone did well today. Rebellion was a great call. I missed the exacta.

Pyro looked positively dreadful.

So to recap. Does anyone come within 20 lengths of Big Brown in this 3 year old crop?

[flushedstraight]

fkach Wrote:
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> I have virtually no idea what Pyro is going to do
> tomorrow in his first try on Poly.
>
> I\'m hoping he runs a mediocre race and his odds
> move higher for the Derby.
>
> IMO.....
>
> Some fast 2YOs don\'t develop further as 3YOs.
>
> Some fast 2YOs don\'t want to stretch out to middle
> and longer distances.
>
> However, very few 3YOs are worse than they were at
> 2 unless they develop some physical problems.
>
> As far as I can tell, Pyro had a great winter and
> has had a perfect series of prep races at 3. IMO,
> his peak is at least as fast as it was at 2 and
> possibly faster.
>
> This was a very fast 2YO if you include his slop
> race. I realize that I\'ve downplayed other slop
> efforts, but Pyro is not a speedy loose on the
> lead type. I think there\'s a better chance his
> slop effort was legit and will translate to a fast
> track. Even if you exclude that race, he still ran
> a solid 3 as a 2YO and has to have a very good
> chance to improve on that by between 2-4 points.
>
>
> I also think he\'s close to a mortal lock to have a
> much faster race in him than he has shown so far
> at 3. He didn\'t have ideal conditions for his
> style in either start this year, but could very
> well get perfect conditions in the Derby.
> Initially, I didn\'t like the fact that he was
> closing from so far out of it, but he got better
> position last out.  
>
> The fact that his form may get clouded by the Poly
> surface tomorow is great (the first nice words I
> ever said about the stuff). I think he has a huge
> shot in the Derby.


Exactly!

[fkach]

LOL.

I wrote all that before he didn\'t lift a hoof in the Bluegrass. I still think he has a huge shot, but I am less certain of his current condition now and want an extra tick or two on the board to use him given the \"?\".