Eight Belles v. Dennis of Cork

[magicnight]

Richiebee;

\"Chalkles\" - well done! that\'s a keeper.

\"I was an infield drunk in 1976 when Bold Forbes dashed to Derby glory. 32 years
later, on this Saturday, I will be a living room drunk.\"

That\'s progress! Lotta those infield drunks from \'76 don\'t even have living rooms!

\"I now suspect that Eight Belles will run on Saturday unless she draws post 19 or 20\"

She\'s picking 6th, so, give the girl a garden spot.

Bob

[richiebee]

RICH:

I think you may have been addressing me IN RE Country Star.

Of the 2YOs I saw race last year (most of them), she was simply the most
explosive. Totally subjective, based on my observation.

Reviewing the Oaks, it looks like there is not much pace to set her up, and like
a previous poster stated, the filly on the rail (Golden Doc A)might try to steal
the race under Kent D. (Golden Doc A another who has no main track experience).

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I think Country Star will be less than 4-1.  

I like four others better. Pure Clan and Proud Spell followed by Little Belle and Bsharpsonata.

Gun to my head I\'ll key Pure Clan. (Not certain that will be my bet due to the post.)


RICH Wrote:
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> Chuckles
>
> What does everyone see in country star at 4-1,
> there are several faster or just as fast, let me
> in on the secret, I see her as a toss at that
> price.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Interesting posts.

To my eye the speed is parked wide, which leads me to believe Tagg may send his to maintain position. They are both capable of it.

Cool Coal Man sure has been lucky pulling that 1 hole hasn\'t he?

I could see Big Brown getting strung a little wider than they\'d like, but it is a longish run to the first turn.

I think the horse hurt most is Gayego and he apparently didn\'t look smart this morning.

richiebee Wrote:
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> Chalkles:
>
> I was an infield drunk in 1976 when Bold Forbes
> dashed to Derby glory. 32 years
> later, on this Saturday, I will be a living room
> drunk.
>
> Comments on your top 3:
>
> BB-- I have gotten private messages
> admonishing/warning me that it is foolish to
> toss the Big Brownie. I get the feeling that this
> year a lot of big serious
> bettors who usually leave the Derby to the
> tourists and infield drunks are
> looking  forward to dumping a big wager on this
> one somewhere between 5/2 and
> 7/2. Knowledgeable horsepeople who usually do not
> get excited are excited about
> this one.
>
> Tricky has a daily spot in the New York Post
> leading up to the Derby. BB missed
> about 45 days of training when Tricky first got
> him, meaning that whatever
> foundation he had leading up to his 2YO debut was
> eradicated and they had to go
> back to square one.
>
> Not only short on foundation, but in his 3
> lifetime races he has never faced
> adversity. TOSS.
>
> CJ-- This colt has never run badly and has
> breeding for the distance. If it
> weren\'t for those bear paws on the TG sheets(or
> the triangles in DRF) denoting
> that all of his races have been synthetic people
> might be talking about this
> one as a candidate to break the 30 year Triple
> Crown drought.
>
> Eight Belles-- I love the fact owner Porter played
> coy (\"We\'ll see what kind of
> post she gets before we decide whether to run in
> the Derby\") and got the
> outside post in the Oaks. I now suspect that Eight
> Belles will run on Saturday
> unless she draws post 19 or 20. My knocks against
> her are documented, and
> whatever odds she goes off at will be about 1/2 of
> what she should be because of
> what I call the \"pants suit\" factor...she will get
> a lot of action based solely
> on her gender.
>
> I have not finished my preparations for Oaks/Derby
> weekend, which include (A)
> absorbing the seminar, (B) planning Saturday\'s
> menu and (C) going to the liquor
> store, but I have already determined that I will
> be making a rather large Oaks/
> Derby double wager on 2 animals who have never
> raced on dirt: Country Star/
> Colonel John.

[albany]

Chuckles:

Frankel has been pointing Country Star to this race all year. She was off nearly 4 months going into the Ashland where she had gate problems at even money. That race was a \"no-go\" for her.

She\'s sitting on \"go\" for the Oaks. Please take another look at her 4/19 work. She did her first 3 furlongs in 38, followed by 2 furlongs in 22 and  capped it  off with a gallop out in 12 1/5. This was a hidden gem of a work.

Just some food for thought.

Albany