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TGJB

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I Think It Can Be Safely Said
« on: May 03, 2008, 05:37:11 PM »
That\'s the biggest number any Derby winner has ever run. By a lot. At least a pair, could be a new top.
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Re: I Think It Can Be Safely Said
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2008, 05:39:56 PM »
The jockey had a hard time pulling him up. In fact he got bucked off on the backstretch.

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2008, 05:41:14 PM »
The blimp shot shows how much ground that Denis Of Cork saves then you realize that he still gets beat double digits by a foe that goes 4w 3w.

Wow!

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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2008, 05:44:09 PM »
I\'m still not sure inside was the best place to be. Denis might not have run his best race from in there.

We\'ll look at that later, not in the mood right now.

firmturf Wrote:
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> The blimp shot shows how much ground that Denis Of
> Cork saves then you realize that he still gets
> beat double digits by a foe that goes 4w 3w.
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> Wow!

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2008, 05:45:52 PM »
Triple Crown, now or never.

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2008, 05:54:09 PM »
What was the time?  Didn\'t get it.   Did you guys see the overhead, watching him accelerate?   Wow.

Kent came off Brown as Brown jumped sideways a bit seeing Eight Belles go down.  Kent ran over to the kid.  Tragic and incredibly sad.  If she was a lesser horse she would have slowed or pulled up.  What an incredible filly.

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2008, 05:58:21 PM »
20% chance to pair or run a better fig than the -3 is a narrow window. Only greatness can achieve such a feat. I agree with Dave, triple crown - now or never.

I feel awful for Larry Jones and his team.

It\'s a bizzare feeling going from elation from crushing the race to heartbreak in mere minutes.

Thanks to all for a great few months on this board. Time now just to sit back and enjoy the rest of the ride with BB.

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Re: I Think It Can Be Safely Said
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2008, 05:59:06 PM »
thanks for posting this...NBC said he got bucked off.  Good for Kent a class guy in the few times I\'ve met him.

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2008, 06:03:10 PM »
I liked both those fillies and have the poor feeling she died running hard for me.

Now folks will say, its proof you don\'t run them against colts. I generally agree with that, but these were good fillies.

It\'s unfortunate. She came close to winning this race. The only thing more tragic would have been had she won it.

Larry Jones and Porter made the right decision. These results are not in our hands.



sighthound Wrote:
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> What was the time?  Didn\'t get it.   Did you guys
> see the overhead, watching him accelerate?   Wow.
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> Kent came off Brown as Brown jumped sideways a bit
> seeing Eight Belles go down.  Kent ran over to the
> kid.  Tragic and incredibly sad.  If she was a
> lesser horse she would have slowed or pulled up.
> What an incredible filly.

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Re: I Think It Can Be Safely Said
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2008, 06:07:08 PM »
I may have some things to say about Eight Belles later in the week, but not now.

I will say that a situation we have at this moment is almost identical to the one we had two years ago.
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Re: I Think It Can Be Safely Said
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2008, 06:54:56 PM »
It was a truly another amazing performance by a horse that flashed potential greatness from the first time he stepped on the racetrack. It\'s a shame he\'s literally held together with glue because it\'s probably going to be difficult to hold him together through the Triple Crown series. As a fan, he gave me the chills I was hoping for through the stretch when I know I am watching a great moment in racing.

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Re: I Think It Can Be Safely Said
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2008, 07:46:51 PM »
JB,

Agree,ground and weight will make it so. The track played very fast all day with fast times on all dirt EXCEPT for the Derby(2.01.82, slowish considering track speed). Check out the two turn maiden winners in the 4th and 11th pace,splits and final time and compare the derby.

Brilliant performance, gigantic fig, but emotions aside,not fast against the clock.A pathetic bunch except for the winner and Eight Belles.


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Re: I Think It Can Be Safely Said
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2008, 08:17:23 PM »
There was a 20 mile per hour head wind in the stretch at one point in the afternoon.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2008, 08:20:45 PM »
First quarter in 23.30, and it slowed from there.  Last half mile in 50.6

Eight Belles was all class.   The winner will get a fig far more impressive than the effort it took to earn it.  The other colts really are that bad.

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2008, 08:25:29 PM »
Some truth to what you said, but a good number of those colts ran off races too.

I\'m looking forward to red boarding this race. If you go by the best T Figures with a BJB key, I think you stand right there with the Super.

sighthound Wrote:
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> First quarter in 23.30, and it slowed from there.
> Last half mile in 50.6
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> Eight Belles was all class.   The winner will get
> a fig far more impressive than the effort it took
> to earn it.  The other colts really are that bad.