I Think It Can Be Safely Said

[miff]

Sight,

Eight Belles outran the rest of that field bad. She left kinda hard for position, stayed in range to the pace, got blindswitched/stopped at the head of the strecth and held very game, ran her heart out. Her TG figs were CONSISTENTLY fast compared to many of the \"one fig\" wonders that she dusted.

Very sad and now the animal loons and the clueless race execs will be poly promoting again.


Mike

[sighthound]

The winner ran a nice race.  He\'s not yet challenged, so who knows what he could do.

Eight Belles was all class and guts.  She never gave up trying to catch him, from lengths back.  Comported herself with much maturity during the running of the race (But look at her experience)

[jimbo66]

Chuckles,

The red board is not a pretty site for those that didn\'t cash big on this race.

Big brown was 3 points the fastest horse with his negative 3.

The \"line of demarcation\" was a zero. Seven horses besides Big Brown ran a zero (weight adjusted for the filly).  The filly ran it 4 times, the other colts only once each.

The other \"0\'s\" belonged to Tale of Ekati, Denis of Cork, Z Fortune, Pyro (last year), Smooth Air and Gayego.

A super key of Big Brown over the seven would cost you $210 and get  you 29k.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

miff, you watch a good race

I\'m trying to figure out why I\'m melancholy. I think its the betting, adopting the animal as yours. I\'ve never really had a horse I\'ve grown to embrace through cashing, die on the track. Now I know what the Barbaro people felt like, although I think the shock is greater this time. She ran a great race and I was inconsiderate a couple years back.

miff Wrote:
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> Sight,
>
> Eight Belles outran the rest of that field bad.
> She left kinda hard for position, stayed in range
> to the pace, got blindswitched/stopped at the head
> of the strecth and held very game, ran her heart
> out. Her TG figs were CONSISTENTLY fast compared
> to many of the \"one fig\" wonders that she dusted.
>
>
> Very sad and now the animal loons and the clueless
> race execs will be poly promoting again.
>
>
> Mike

[Ron G.]

They are going to have a hard time promoting poly/synthetic surfaces as a good place to prep your derby horse.

[MonmouthGuy]

I was just going to post the same.

So much for the California Class of 2008, P-Dub.

[olsenny]

7 horses had run the \"zero\"equired to win here. Four of them are the first four finishers.  Thanks for the super the super Jerry

[olsenny]

And of course, no super race goes unpunished - off to the Preakness.  How about a walkover Preakness and 5 weeks off to the Belmont - like to avoid this potential breakdown.

Eight Belles - one too many mornings and a thousand miles behind - (credit to Mr. Dylan).

Today a classic case of the ecstay and the agony - the best performance I have ever seen by a thoroughbred (and I go back to Dr. Fager) and another crushing breakdown - they go out there every time and do the best they can, without any other agenda - and it\'s the horses that pay the ultimate price.

Sorry - I\'ve just seen too many of them.

[P-Dub]

MonmouthGuy Wrote:
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> I was just going to post the same.
>
> So much for the California Class of 2008, P-Dub.


Yes Genius, this year they didn\'t hit the board.

Congrats on a nice score.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Jerry,

What were you implying Saturday post tragedy?

Olsenny,

Congrats, but its best to go on record before.

I was going to itemize my precise bets but when I began submitting them with about 20 minutes to go I experienced lag. The submissions were lagging and I stole a furtive moment here to quickly post Key Big Brown. When I was in trouble I bet in priority:

Win
Perfectas
Trifecta
Super

I also was having difficulty printing the confirmations. The whole thing cost me lots of time and I never got my Superfecta in, but the problem saved me money because I did not have Denis of Cork in third.

I did have a very nice Big Brown - Eight Belles perfecta

olsenny Wrote:
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> And of course, no super race goes unpunished - off
> to the Preakness.  How about a walkover Preakness
> and 5 weeks off to the Belmont - like to avoid
> this potential breakdown.
>
> Eight Belles - one too many mornings and a
> thousand miles behind - (credit to Mr. Dylan).
>
> Today a classic case of the ecstay and the agony -
> the best performance I have ever seen by a
> thoroughbred (and I go back to Dr. Fager) and
> another crushing breakdown - they go out there
> every time and do the best they can, without any
> other agenda - and it\'s the horses that pay the
> ultimate price.
>
> Sorry - I\'ve just seen too many of them.

[miff]

JB,

\"That\'s the biggest number any Derby winner has ever run. By a lot. At least a pair, could be a new top\"




....Mark Hopkins/Beyer (Big Brown 109)


Mike

[MonmouthGuy]

Thanks.  I eventually changed my mind and used CJ on top w/ BB because of his CD work, so I was wrong, too.  I think Gayego got the worst trip of the day, so I would throw his race out. Think he is the class of Cali. I think CJ and Pyro are just too slow.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Colonel John went :57 and 4 and 1:10 and 4 six days before the Derby, blowing hard afterwards. That was a bit too fast. Coupled with the trouble he found, it was too much to overcome.

If he\'s ok, he\'s coming back for more.



MonmouthGuy Wrote:
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> Thanks.  I eventually changed my mind and used CJ
> on top w/ BB because of his CD work, so I was
> wrong, too.  I think Gayego got the worst trip of
> the day, so I would throw his race out. Think he
> is the class of Cali. I think CJ and Pyro are just
> too slow.

[fkach]

Chuckles,

I saw about 1/2 the races. I looked to me like the outside paths may have been the best paths. Not so much that the inside was bad, but that horses weren\'t severely disadvantaged by losing ground. What was your take?

Also, I know the official designation was fast, but if anyone was actually there was there any moisture still in the track underneath? Several horses may not have liked the surface if it was still wet underneath. I know the trainer of Colonel John said that during the week.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I never like the rail at this time of year at Churchill. I\'d tell my jock stay 2 paths wide and though I don\'t think the rail was ideal its wasn\'t death valley either.

Expect a better effort out of Denis Cork next.

Also a better effort out of Alina. She bounced.

fkach Wrote:
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> Chuckles,
>
> I saw about 1/2 the races. I looked to me like the
> outside paths may have been the best paths. Not so
> much that the inside was bad, but that horses
> weren\'t severely disadvantaged by losing ground.
> What was your take?
>
> Also, I know the official designation was fast,
> but if anyone was actually there was there any
> moisture still in the track underneath? Several
> horses may not have liked the surface if it was
> still wet underneath. I know the trainer of
> Colonel John said that during the week.