Big Brown has a quarter crack

[covelj70]

Fair enough then, thanks for the info.

I stand corrected and will shut up for the rest of the weekend.

Thanks

[richiebee]

Only slightly related to this disturbing string is an article in Sunday\'s New
York Daily News which goes in depth about Richard \"Tricky\" Dutrow-- his
problems with drugs, his numerous suspensions, the violent death of the mother
of his daughter, his estrangement from his father.

In a short blurb in the Sunday New York Post, Ed Fountaine said Dutrow
Saturday \"laughed off\" a \"West coast based rumor that BB had popped a quarter
crack\".

If its true, and BB does not run, it only costs NYRA what, 80,000 spins of the turnstiles?

[miff]

Cov,


You said nothing wrong. Ask your trainer.Horses prone to cracks can get them at any time. BB\'s was from jogging/galloping on friday under no pressure,sure he could get one from running neg figs also.


Mike

[miff]

Bee,

Make no mistake, the anxiety level of the owners is to the moon, regardless of flippant Tricky.

Mike

[Flighted Iron]

It\'s stupid comments like that that contribute to Americans being the most hated people in the world.


     Reality check pal. America is the free world and a giant melting pot.Given
the fact that Godzilla is fictional,I thought the joke was quite funny and in no
way bad taste.In addition to your handicapping skills your sense of humor is
lacking as well.BTW,the sport is called HORSERACING not trainerwithbesthorse.Most
horseracing fans probably don\'t give 2 $#@!% about dutrow winning or will years
down the road,but they would remember the glorious horse accomplishing a rare feat
in the face of tremendous adversity.

[jimbo66]

Emotions are running high as might be expected with a 30 year triple crown hiatus being threatened a potentially great horse trained by a trainer with a big mouth and who has a track record of having been caught cheating.

Covelj,

I know you already promised to shut up for the weekend, but that certainly isn\'t necessary.  But you should realize that the horse not running doesn\'t prove a thing or make you right about anything.  Last time I checked, this game involves gambling.  For you to \"win\", he needs to run, and you beat him.  Then you can come up on the board and talk about how you were one of the first and loudest to take an anti-Big Brown in the Belmont stance/position.  And by the way, Dutrow may be a jerk, and I hate him as much as the next guy.  But the godzilla comment is NOT classless.  It is mildly witty, but certainly not classless.  Nothing wrong with it.  His overall arrogant, classless nature, is a different story.

Rick B,

Grave dancer is a bit harsh though, isn\'t it!!

Let\'s get the horse healthy and let him run.  Then we can all see.  Bounce, or no bounce.  Triple Crown or not good enough, like the rest of them the past 30 years.  

Nobody wins if he skips the belmont!

[richiebee]

Miff--

What is interesting here is what amount of pressure NYRA will put on owners
and trainer to run this colt.

[rosewood]

Richie,

Like you, don\'t want in on the heated string, but it would drastically reduce attendance.

The horse has bad feet period. The seperations were I think on the outside of both fronts and this newest crack is reported on the inside.

Could be nothing more than a simple sand crack or the damn thing could already be infected or abcessed for all we know.

[covelj70]

Final final word from me (I promise)

I just talk to one of the leading horseman on the east coast.  I asked him how much risk there was to running a horse with a quarter crack.

He said \"ABSOLUTELY NONE\"  He said that running a horse with a quarter crack in now way increases the risk of a breakdown.

This is what I had been previously told about quarter cracks which I why I made the original post so Rick B, I think your criticism was a bit misplaced but no big deal.  

Jimbo, you are absoultely right in your post.

Rick B.  Truce and let\'s enjoy a great weekend, lots of good action today.

[miff]

Bee,

What you will not hear is that the risk assessor of the insurance company will have some say, they will not pay under certain clauses if this horse races with a pre existing condition and breaks down.

Won\'t say more than if infection sets in, you will never see BB on the track again. The next 42-72 hours will determine if he ever runs again.You gotta be a moron not to root for this horse to get to the race even if you\'re tossing him.


Mike

[miff]

Cov,

Correct, but bar shoes and aluminum pads are a DISASTER.


Mike

[fkach]

The funny thing is that if he misses a few days of training but still runs, some people that formerly wouldn\'t have been willing to take a stand against him, might now. If he loses, then we can have a two year debate about whether he lost because he bounced or because he missed some training leading up to a 12F race and whether the timing of the quarter crack was a fluke or related to his tough efforts. ;-)

[Flighted Iron]

Thanks for the heads-up.

[miff]

Fkach,

He will miss several days, but the problem is more complicated. As of this morning,BB is a handful not having gone out to the track sat or sunday and is dragging people around shed row. Tricky bringing in reinforcements to deal with BB\'s power/enthusiasm.How do you do that for 3 more days is beyond me.This horse is anything but acting hurt right now.


Mike

[rosewood]

Miff,

According to Dutrow qoute in that Bloodhorse article:

It won\'t hurt to miss a few days. Tuesday before the Belmont would be perfect and even Wednesday would be good.

Thats almost two weeks...