Fix Six Quote of the day - 11/13

[derby1592]

This one from Andrew Beyer:

\"What the industry has to do should be obvious: review every Pick Six in New York, California and other major racing states that had a substantial payout in the last year (or more). Find out if there were any winning combinations with four \"singles\" and two \"alls.\" Discover if there were any other possible scams besides the trio involved in the Breeders\' Cup scandal. And then get the bad news out. If the industry doesn\'t do these things, all of its positive actions will go for naught, and its customers will suspect that a whitewash is in progress.\"


I am with Andy on this one. If you are going to write letters as Mall suggested, I think encouraging the above is a good first step. I would actually like to see them look at any hits with back loaded \"all\" - \"all\" tickets even if the first four legs are more than singles. Particularly, if they are for more than 2 dollars. There are bound to be sharper schemers that have been taking advantage of this incredible lack of security.

Chris

[Mall]

At least according to Mike Brunker\'s recent piece at msnbc.com/news/834678.asp  The question, as you will see, is exactly what kind of review it is going to be. The reason a review is going to take place, according to Quinn, who apparently is going to be the only player rep, was \"persistent complaints from big players\", so those of you who wrote or emailed can pat yourself on the back. The other thing that is interesting is Quinn\'s comment that task force members were surprised at the extent to which players believed that past posting was taking place. I have never been convinced that there was past posting, but it is hard to believe that anyone connected to the industry, and who was given a position on the task force, would not know that the belief was widespread.


Day one of the new rules at CD was interesting, as heavy favorites won the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 7th. I saw the 6th, in which two horses were co-favored at 5/2 when the betting stopped. When the race went off a min or so later, one had dropped to 9/5 & the other, who ended up winning, went to 3-1. I assume the same kind of drop occurred for one or more of the favs who won. For obvious reasons, I think it is going to be important to see if the new rules change people\'s betting habits. Equally important, there seemed to be enough time to make an on track bet between the last odds change and the start of the race, something you\'re going to be able to do at NY tracks starting 12/4. I see this as a major advantage in a \"normal\" race, & have to believe that there are going to be scratch, break thru the gate, & other situations which are going to make it almost mandatory to attend in person in NY. But for some reason the inner dirt track is not where my family wants to spend the holidays.

[ExPlayer]

: Mall

\"But for some reason the inner dirt track is not where my family wants to spend the holidays\"

  Why not. You\'ll miss inhaling the sweet fumes of Ganja at no extra charge in the stairwells, and the 3rd floor of the Grandstand. Can\'t miss out on that fun.

  AQU in the winter is heaven.

[Mall]

Jim: Before my kids left for college, I suspected that Ganja was what I was smelling on the 2nd floor of my house, but I was always told it was nothing more than incense. The way I figure it, the off track bets stop when the 1st horse enters, and it then takes a max of 45 secs for that money to show up in the pools, while a an avg field takes about a 1 1/2 mins to load, which gives us approx 45 secs to bet after we have a very good idea of what the final odds will be. I haven\'t been to the Big A for a few yrs, but at a lot of other tracks people have offered me a personal remote wagering terminal, which I\'ve always refused based on the assumption that the devices were for handicapped or extremely lazy people. Do they have these devices at Aqu? Can they be used extremely close in time to the start? Is the guy who stole my binoculars the last time I was there still around? These are the kinds of things I need to know in order to convince my family that this whole home for the holidays thing is nothing more than yet another nefarious marketing ploy perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.

[ExPlayer]

  Was that the same guy that stole MY binoculars (damn nice pair of Nikons, but they were large and the new compacts are less hassle, and less neckstrain).

  Not sure about a  truly portable betting device in NY. I know they have the tiny tims at the dining tables.

  As far as what small edge might be obtained by being able to bet into the closing odds.... I\'m underwhelmed.

  Very few decisions should be resting on the kind of hairsplitting that involves. 8/5 vs 3/2 ?   The real value comes from keeping the crooks out of the pool.

  Actually, betting from home is a lot more efficient than track attendance, as much as I like to watch warmups and the like. For one thing, you are comfortable , not surrounded by lunatics (unless you happen to live with lunatics).

  Also, for those that like to monitor betting patterns and such in exactas, you can do so with ease over the internet. You don\'t have to stand there like a fool, charting by hand, and waiting endlessly for the exacta prices to cycle.

  Much to be said for remote wagering. Betting in the last minute is not an incentive to play at the track.  If they had any sense at all, they would offer a lower takeout to on-track players. That , and only that, will bring back the offshore crowd.