Catalano/Calabrese/Slomkowski

[sighthound]

Thank goodness Rick Arthur has you.

[APny]

Give me a break! So these guys winning at 70 percent are just good at the claiming game.  I guess they\'ve figured out what all other trainers have been trying to for years.  How naive can you be?

[sekrah]

Harry F Thompson Jr., anyone remember him??  He used to rule the roost at Penn National with 20-25% win percentages until a few years ago he got nailed giving Clenbuterol to one of his horses within 24 hours of post time.  They dropped the hammer on him and suspended him 315 days!  

This guy was the leading trainer at Penn National for 8 of the preceeding 10 years!! In 2008? He has a whopping 1 winner with 43 starts heading into this weekend when he rolled home a $96 bomber by 3-4 lengths this past Saturday.  

He\'s on my watch list right now.. He may be getting desperate again.  A total pig of his got suspicious money and outperformed his numbers in the 9th tonight.

[miff]

APny,

1.No trainer wins at 70% for any extended period of time,never.

2.There are guys who claim horses and put lots of money into makeovers and do well in spotting them. They win at a high percentage.

3.There are the other guys who claim horses and use illegal performance enhancing drugs to achieve their results.

I think the poster was speaking to #2 of the above,not suggesting that some guys have \"figured out\" what no other trainer knows(as you stated)


Those who think that EVERY horse that improves is juiced are naive as are those who think there are no illegal performance enhancers being used by some trainers.


Mike

[P.Eckhart]

What\'s happening in Blighty, an unnanounced dawn raid on a prominent knight of the realm. Just not cricket old boy.

Sir Michael Stoute

[NoCarolinaTony]

Miff

Well said.

I know Wayne personally. I know what he does and how he does it. The one Poster from Ill has it all correct.

He\'s not juicing, and he\'s not shaking. They clearly buy horses off trainers who are less skilled with decent pedigrees, look for horses that are run on the cheap, cheap owners etc. They do the work that others won\'t. He spots them well. His stable Mgr uses RAGS for the most part. I tried to get him to convert. He doesn\'t do nearly as well with firsters.They clearly use speed figs for placement of horses, claims horses with back figs etc.

Anyway yeah 70% seems high but the sample size is still small yet for the meet. He\'s been winning at over 30% for years, and \'m sure by year end he\'ll be back at around 33-36%.

you\'ll can think what you want, assume you want, believe in what you want to believe.

Anyway, I\'m off to watch the races today.

I\'ll be out of commission for a while with Surgery on Damaged disk in back Tuesday. Hopefully will see many of you at the SPA end of July-Sept.

NC Tony