Wonder where his bread is buttered ?

[Silver Charm]

Rosewood, See my post from a coupe of years. Nothing has changed so why are people surprised. Also the owners of One Rocket. IEAH


Re: Are Racehorses Getting Slower. Not in Kentucky
Posted by: Silver Charm (IP Logged)
Date: January 17, 2005 07:30AM


The fact that Ky Politics is run by Daddys\' Boy, Boss Hogg politicians like Damon Thayer should be no surprise to anyone.

The fact that critical Racing Decisions that will impact the future of the industry not just in Ky but nationwide are controlled by the Boss Hogg\'s of the world and \"Who has bought off Who\" should be no surprise to anyone.

The fact that this years KY Derby winner, Oaks winner, Blue Grass Stakes winner and nearly all other Stakes races in Ky will be won by horses running with close to a half dozen performance enhancing substances in their systems that are banned in most major racing jurisdictions should be no surprise to anyone.

The fact that the biggest newspaper in the state of Ky creates a city-wide emergency when the Mens basketball coach has gas in his stomach but considers \"milkshakes\" in the stomach of race horses at the local race track a non-story should be a surprise to no one.

What is a surprise is how in the world the most recent incident where One Rocket was drugged, ran far superior to his previous form, has turned into a Rebate Shop Story. There are plenty of small-time inside jobs going on everyday where drugs are involved. Where have the Woodward and Bernstein types and fist pounding Editors in the Racing Media disappeared too?

[rosewood]

Amen Brother................

[rosewood]

Who is a jockey lover?

Don\'t just go back for the six horse time frame. Go back at least 20 years as you pointed out when the vet was over ruled as you stated and come back with your injury and death report of all organized sport in public schools and professional sports since then and we can compare the results.

Then maybe you will answer the question of why you don\'t direct your efforts to shut down all sports in the U.S.?  That is what I ask?

What action did you take concerning the vet getting over ruled?  Did you contact anyone? Did you have racehorses at the time? Did you sell them ?

These seem to be honest questions.

[magicnight]

Mike;

I understand that you will never be able to make racing completely safe for anyone - horses and jocks both. That said, if US racing interests do not do everything in their power to reduce the level of catastrophic injuries to the level of Hong Kong, or Europe at least, this sport is eventually going the way of the dodo, no matter what you or the hardboots say.

I know you love dirt, and I know you love speed, but if you don\'t see how those two factors mixed with the lax oversight have turned our game into a meat grinder (relative to Europe and Hong Kong) I don\'t know how I can convince you otherwise.

I also understand that if racing goes, so goes the thoroughbred. Sure, some people would keep them because they are rare, and beautiful, like orchids; and - absent racing - about as useless. But if most of the population sees them as beautiful beasts being ground up for the pleasure of gamblers and breeders, the game will not survive. At that time, unless you have a farm and tons of cash, the petting zoo will, sadly, become your only option.

Bob

[magicnight]

No, Rosewood, these are moronic questions and I\'m not even going to ignore them.

Bob

[sighthound]

Horse racing has rarely cleaned it\'s own house.  Horse racing has historically been a culture of cheating, hopping, gambling, with more nefarious associations than not.  And that includes many a powerful owner.

That doesn\'t mean, however, that the only solution to current problems is to put control of the sport in the hands of those who want to see horse racing eliminated.

I think some underestimate how powerful the \"animal loons\", and their public sympathizers, can be.

See Britain.

Why do you think The Jockey Club is scrambling so frantically right now?  Less to save their historical power and influence, than to save the existence of the sport.

[TGJB]

Yes and no. They actually first approached me late last year, because certain important individuals had had enough. Events of the last few months (8 Belles, Whitfield) have actually made their task easier by increasing the sense of urgency of the tracks, which will help get the objectives achieved.

[miff]

Sight,

You are correct to the extent that in order to gain political capital the loons will buy into the horse racing issue notwithstanding that they are clueless about the sport.There are issues that need to be urgently addressed but the loons or their political power base should not be calling the shots.

Many in the racing hierarchy who have long turned a blind eye to lots of bad stuff are now the \"champions of change\" Gimme a break, these transparent slugs screwed the game up with their indifference all along.New blood is needed, the empty suits are running scared now but it\'s very late as the endangered specie, i.e. the customer, has already headed for the door.


Mike

[mjellish]

Hi Jerry,

A quick question.  If the racing community wants to regulate and/or control the use of drugs and other medical substances they are going to have to find a way to enforce the rules.  That means they are going to have to test for these substances, which is going to cost some money.  That money is going to have to come from somewhere.  My guess is that after much good and bad debate back and forth the powers that be will eventually turn to throwing this back upon the horseplayer in the form of a 1-2% increase in takeout or something thereabouts.  While leveling the playing field so to speak may lead to an increase in confidence and therefore handle, in theory I\'m not sure that it will work out that way.  I therefore think it is the wrong way to go.  I am curious to know what talk there has been about how to fund all of this.  Perhaps some sort of increase on interstate or online wagering may be acceptable and they could generate enough money to then leave the takeout for on-track wagering alone, or possibly even reduce it?  What do you think would be the best way?

As a racegoer I\'m happy to pay my share, but...

[Thehoarsehorseplayer]

How about from a tax on stud fees? It seems to me the Breeders have been taking way more out of the game then they have been giving back for quite some time.

[sighthound]

I think TJC is the only group that CAN get the objectives achieved.

[sighthound]

Steve Byk had Damon Thayer on his, \"At the Races\" radio show Wednesday at about 5:15pm   You can hear it on the replay archive at

 http://www.thoroughbredracingradionetwork.com/

[girly]

The voice of reason.

[Boscar Obarra]

I believe  you\'ll find the knee jerk name callers (ie \"animal loons\") are the same ones kicking their dogs and possibly beating their wives.

  Anyone so anxious to prove they love people that they relegate the welfare of an animal to second rate status, is , at best, deeply suspect.

[miff]

Boxcar,

Surprised at your comments.Thought you knew that most racehorses are treated better than many people in this country. No real problem with that, but when the PETA loons and alike try to gain political capital and raise money off of  nationally televised tragic breakdowns, they can go.... themselves, period!

I don\'t believe anyone here has any problem with people who genuinely have affinity for animals,as I do,it\'s the fringe loon that I speak of.



Mike