All good points! I was wondering about many of the things you bring up. The \"pulling\" is of issue - like everything else w/this horse you could read it different ways - the pace was really slow in those races and the track speed biased, so Go-Go had to let him run earlier than he wanted thus explaining why he seemed a bit uncomfortable at times and out of his game. The fact that his maiden race was 2 turns on grass doesn\'t scream triple crown type either though I could take a positive view that they sent the horse to Baffert b/c he showed some promise, but also you could say that he\'s a grass horse and since Pro-Ride plays something like grass, and the comp. is usually weaker out there, why not try the SA races, and even if he flops in the derby you can always run on grass later and look how much he\'s earned already - even though its Zayat - it\'s still a lot of money - this really is a tough read. As far as baffert, he has figured out the synthetic surfaces as best he could and has done much better in the last 6 months say than he had for a few years; his barn seems to be on an upswing. If you put any stock in CD workouts, POTN supposedly worked terrific yesterday and looked fine over the slop on Monday. We\'ll all know for sure around 6:15 Pm on May 2end! My saver is to box all the California horses in exotics - Mr Hot Stuff, POTN, IWR, Papa Clem, and CC -- there\'s some value in that equation however you slice it - just a theory that the east coast horses are over-rated this year - we\'ll see. Freisan Fire is the wild card I suppose, but I can\'t take a horse off such a long layoff - not for me going a mile and quarter. The Dubai horses will need to prove it to me that they can compete in the Derby, so far that route hasn\'t paid off - but there\'s always a first time. Good luck to all - I\'m getting weary with this discussion now. Hope I didn\'t offend Jerry - I didn\'t mean too. Thought I had a legit question - doesn\'t really matter I guess - in my book whoever cashes had the best opinion.