Is Dunkirk Going To Get To Lousville Before This Saturday

[ronwar]

I\'m not so sure about the foundation argument.  Does it just apply to the Derby?  I remember Bernardin showing up for the Preakness with no 2 yr old foundation, only 3 races in the holster and destroying the field.  Not saying this guys is the next Bernardini, Curlin, etc., but if Prado works out a trip and has enough horse, statistics or jinx will not keep him from wearing roses.

[ajkreider]

That fact that POTN has accomplished so much more than Dunkirk, and GG still had an apparent dilemma on his hands, says exactly the opposite to me.

On paper, it should have been an easy choice.  That it wasn\'t says something about what Gomez thinks about Dunkirk - and it ain\'t bad.

[toppled]

These are my guesses: Pletcher has been the Churchill route before, saw that Dutrow was successful staying in Florida last year & figured maybe something different would break his losing streak.  Also, the weather is less volatile in Florida & he didn\'t want anything messing with his training schedule.  Jones is no more successful than Pletcher at the Derby-they both have two 2nds, it\'s just that a lot of the Pletcher owners want to run in the Derby, in spite of the horses lack of credentials.  

PS: Nice response miff-this board is so much more civilized than the football boards I frequent.

[Bullman]

Dam won the KY Oaks doesn\'t hurt either....

[alm]

Miff said: \"Bias data for FL derby day supports a GP surface that favored speed but not as intense a bias as is being portrayed by some,including TAP.Dunkirk had a perfect trip(did lose ground on turn), honest pace and got outrun by a superior tactical horse who took Dunkirk\'s \"best shot\".

It wasn\'t his running against a possible track bias at Gulfstream that impressed me.  It was his speed while closing a lot of ground through the turn, in the 4 path, that was really impressive.

I live at Gulfstream and did not see many if any horses this season make that strong a move, that wide and still close on the leader.  My trainer feels the turns here are relatively flat and it\'s difficult to fight centrifugal force, going wide in them.  Once they straightened out, Dun kept pace and lost a minor amount of ground under the circumstances.  

We may find out he is a very special horse.