Happy and relieved - payouts?

[shanahan]

Is it possible that the payouts at the end of the card were low (pik 4, pik 3) because of \"casual bettors\" ?  favs, favs, females?

If so, great for the sport - hope they all come back next Saturday to windows!

I am relieved she did not get injured as I feared this would happen and kill the sport for many \"prospective\" fans.  5 races in 13 weeks?  On the lead and holding them off?  OK - she\'s my vote for everything of the year...

Hey Covel ( and Silver)...she campaigned at Oaklawn (couldn\'t resist).  Wish\'d I\'d have had her on top...

[sighthound]

TGJB needs a new data point:  strides per 16th.   That filly only took 3 strides for every 4 the other horses were taking.

Edit:  racing is cool again

[nhorizon]

So they paid their bucks and ran the filly.  And she won the race and beat the boys.  And she lived to run another day.  And Borel won BOTH big races, didn\'t he?  

All you second guessers and experts questioning the decision making...and now advising them regarding the Belmont.  Why not just shut up now.

[shanahan]

nhorizon Wrote:
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> So they paid their bucks and ran the filly.  And
> she won the race and beat the boys.  And she lived
> to run another day.  And Borel won BOTH big races,
> didn\'t he?  
>
> All you second guessers and experts questioning
> the decision making...and now advising them
> regarding the Belmont.  Why not just shut up now.


You must be kidding, right?  You would run her - the 6th race in 19 wks - in the Belmont?  Do you have $10 Million invested?  Do you know how taxing this is for most horses, let alone a 3 YR old filly?  Tell me the reasoning, because history says it would be embarrasing at the least, fatal at worst.

[covelj70]

We don\'t want to shut up because we are looking out for the best interests of the filly.  You heard Calvin in the post race interview he said \"she wasn\'t getting hold of the track\"  She was getting hold of the track just fine, this is just an amazing athlete telling us that she needs a break. Let\'s give it to her so we have a great champion to enjoy come year end!

[shanahan]

covelj70 Wrote:
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> We don\'t want to shut up because we are looking
> out for the best interests of the filly.  You
> heard Calvin in the post race interview he said
> \"she wasn\'t getting hold of the track\"  She was
> getting hold of the track just fine, this is just
> an amazing athlete telling us that she needs a
> break. Let\'s give it to her so we have a great
> champion to enjoy come year end!


well said.  Gald you did well today!

[smalltimer]

This race today knocks her out for a couple months at least. What does she have to prove by coming back on 3 weeks and trying a mile and a half?  She appears to be so gutsy and game that she\'ll leave everything on the race track. She\'ll compete so hard, the potential downside FAR outweighs the upside.  Freshen her up, get her energy level at her normal high level, and then she can take on about anybody....except Zenyatta who will be waiting for her on the Pro Ride.   lol   Couple of salty fillies if that one comes to pass, it would be a shame if they weren\'t both at their best.

[covelj70]

very very well said, couldn\'t agree more

[jimbo66]

Somebody should pass the contact information for the owner and trainer onto Covelj,Shanahan and Smalltimer.  Obviously, you guys know what is best for the filly, much more so than the connections.  Just like you know that Calvin was wrong about the filly not handling the track. After all, your TV vantage point of how she was handling it, was much better than him, riding her back for the 7th or 8th time.

Geez guys.  I know you mean well, but this whole thread TAKES away from the filly and is blathering.  

She ran like a champ.  As some of you predicted.  Good call.  Give her kudos.

If she is still \"right\" in 3 weeks, ,the connections may run her.  If not, they will rest her.  Let them decide.

[Silver Charm]

This string disgusting.

We have just seen one of the greatests days in racing history and its all about don\'t do this next

Pathetic

[covelj70]

Jimbo,

I own alot of horses, some of whom I have control over (in terms of where they race), many of which I don\'t because I only own small pieces.

Trust me, When you are in the heat of the moment and you have spent all of the blood, sweat and tears to get a great filly like this, it\'s not as easy to decide to do the \"right thing\" as it is when you are an outsider like I am in this situation.  The right thing is obvious here.  

What did you want Borel to say, \"she\'s tired, I hope Steve doesn\'t run her in the Belmont\"  He says that and he gets taken off the filly because he doesn\'t believe in her.

Please recognize that I am just offering my opinion on what is best for the filly.  I have no other agenda, my intentions here are totally pure.

[covelj70]

Silver,

It\'s exactly because we have just seen one of the greatest days in history that the next step is so important.  We can\'t keep shooting ourselves in the foot as an industry.  If the game was thriving, we could take time to enjoy the moment.  We can\'t afford that luxury right now unfortunately.

[shanahan]

Jimbo, appreciate the note without sarcasm, but in my estimation it\'s too taxing in the time frame.  That in mind, what\'s your take?  Am I too cautious?

[jimbo66]

Covelj,

I know you own horses.  But the stuff you are going on about has nothing to do with ownership experience.  You are joining the \"predicting quarter cracks and other natural disasters escapade\".

The filly running in the Belmont would be GREAT for racing.  Not just good, but great.  Imagine if we get lucky, and she is doing well enough to run, the Derby winner comes as well, and maybe Quality Road can make the race (I have no news on him, so not sure what his status is).  You add to that Charitable Man, who probably ran a 0 and is the son of a belmont winner, trained by an top trainer and ridden by last year\'s Belmont winning jockey.  Great races and great rivalries make the sport great.  

Not running \"big tops\", predicting disasters, then putting horses away for 6 months or retiring.  

Imagine watching the filly hook up with Quality Road on the front end, instead of a rank and \"off his game\" Big Drama.

Please stop predicting doom for sound horses.

[Silver Charm]

I thought Jackson soured the whole story when he paid BIG bucks, switched trainers and said he was heading to the Preakness.

What an IDIOT he is.....

Where is Zayat this guy needs to be tar and feathered for trying to keep her out and running his PIG

Let\'s talk about where HE goes next