Gabby's Golden Gal Read

[Labeebmile]

In Saturday\'s Pick 6 at Belmont, this was the only horse I whiffed on. Picking up three consos is nice, but totally misreading this one is still bothering me tonight. Did the race totally fall apart, or did GGG actually move up?

In reading her sheet, I didn\'t cut her any slack for the clunker in the Oaks. Coming off of a 4 point top and almost 7 points in development, to run the way she did off of 5 weeks rest to me put her well behind the supposed favorites of the field. I figured he to run in the 7 range. For the record, I had the 4,7, and 8 as my \"A\'s\" with no backups. For those that played her, how did you read this sheet? If the race merely fell apart, I guess the question is moot.

Thanks in advance.

[TreadHead]

This horse ruined my day.  I used 6 horses in this leg in pick3s, but not GGG.  I know some will complain the Sunland numbers are too high when you look at her and MTB, but that seems like a red herring.  Put a line thru the Rachel race and it isn\'t that big a stretch, but in that race so many looked similar and a step better.  Tough race.

[jimbo66]

Labeebmile,

Not sure if you will find too many on this board to answer that question as she was tough to use off the TG figures for the reasons you named.  I went six deep in the pick-4 here, throwing out Justwhistledixie and still didn\'t come up with her.  Tough to figure her to get loose on the lead with Dream Play in the race, plus what looked like other speeds.  She was cutting back, from slower paced races, yet somehow blew up the race from the front end.  Those that came up with her got rewarded with a nice win bet and she certainly \"juiced\" the pick-4.

Even if you played her to rebound right back to her Sunland top, it was tough to expect her to win.  And returning to her top off the bad effort in the Oaks was a tough thing to ask, to begin with.

[P-Dub]

Same here LAbeeb.

Killed my Pick 3/4 and 6. Had every race around it, but that girl cost me quite a bit. Still a winning day but what if.....

[Silver Charm]

The track WAS favoring speed so in that respect she was possibly usuable.

But the 7 was also speed and was much much faster so this made GGG easier to eliminate

The seven never broke or run a jump adding to a very tough day for Karian. I also think the outcome of THIS race on top of several of the other front running winners changed some of the Belmont strategy for some of the contestants

Those being Dunkirk and MTB with CM and the Zito horse caught in the middle.

[jack72906]

Same here. GGG, ran the race I thought Dream Play would run. I used DP and JWD on ALL tix. Tough loss. There will be other opportunities.

[miff]

GGG just bottomed the field out on a glib surface which played kind to speed/up close runners.Very hard to predict that she could shake loose from Dream Play(esp with the Mig on) GGG previous race was on a track unkind to speed and she was being stalked by Rachel,still an impossible use for me.Slow going in, poor race dynamics for her.

Yet another previous slow rat-ess runner from Sunland Park takes down lots of money.


Mike

[Michael D.]

I believe she was slow on all data. I went 3 deep and didn\'t consider her.

In my opinion, it was the cut-back in distance and the conditioner that made the difference. Bob Baffert\'s runners are eligible to explode when they run over lightning quick wet-fast surfaces. He winds em up better than any trainer in America, and they often start cruising over that type of surface and never stop.

[jimbo66]

Yes,

When I said she was hard to use on TG data, I didn\'t mean that she looked better on either Rags or Beyer.  I didn\'t see their data.  I just meant that she was tough to use on figures.  I was implying that maybe there was some other way to come up with, based on pace figures or something (but I don\'t know).

Point taken on Baffert.

[Lost Cause]

If that other speed was not in there I would have used her as a lone speed play but you just assumed she would burn it up with the 7 and die.

[Josephus]

I didn\'t play the pick6, but if you use pace figs in conjunction with TG (I won\'t name the product), her last race was not a \"clunker\". She was coming off a new pace top,against the best 3yo in training at the time; a move-up alert, especially the way the track was playing.  But I would agree it would be hard to pull the trigger on a horse like that in a pick 6, unless you\'re investing a ton of money. Lost Cause, you know what I\'m talking about.

[TGJB]

I went 5 deep in the race, only pick 6 race I didn\'t hit (used Munnings only because I didn\'t want to single, ticket was relatively small).

What do Dunkirk, Flying Private and GGG all have in common?

All ran stinkers at CD Derby weekend and moved up 20 lengths next time out.

Hmmmmm.....

[Dudley]

TGJB Wrote:
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> What do Dunkirk, Flying Private and GGG all have
> in common?
>
> All ran stinkers at CD Derby weekend and moved up
> 20 lengths next time out.
>
> Hmmmmm.....

JB- surely you\'re not suggesting KY\'s medication policy is now that much superior to MD and NY, are you? Oh pshaw! It has to be the fantastic abilities of Messrs Pletcher, Lukas and Baffert to correct their previous training errors no? ;-0

[Lost Cause]

Josephus Wrote:
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Hey J,
But even with that new pace top did it seem likely that she would get loose from the #7 like that?  That was the main reason I did not include her.  If she looked like she was going to be on the lead on her own I would have absolutely included her...Oh well..
Reverse pace scenario happened in the Belmont.  I was confident in Charitable Man because I thought the pace would be slow so he would have more than enough in the end.  When Dunkirk inexplicably got to the front I knew I was in trouble.
..If somebody writes that they knew Dunkirk would have the lead in the stakes I\'m going to show you a liar..

[analizethis]

I used GGG as a \"b\" in my pick four (which I hit) off her race at Sunland and completely tossed her performance in the KY Oaks because she went with RA who ran her into submission. The main concern I had here was that it looked again like she might get pace pressure and the race would set up perfectly for JWD (my \"a\" horse in the race) but without that pressure I really felt she could move forward off that 4 at Sunland and be competitive with the others (except JWD). I also used Four Gifts and Dream Play and tossed Funny Moon who I felt was a plodder who could never out close JWD.