Dubai WC

[SoCalMan2]

Really like this card.  Feels like the first time in a long time.

Anybody understand what it means when they have track condition for the Tapeta at Meydan?  I thought track condition was a thing of the past with artificial surfaces, but I see the Tapeta can be ft or st and that the TG and the DRF dont match (TG has the Tapeta going st way more often than the form does).  Does anybody know if it is a relevant handicapping factor whether the tapeta is ft or st?

Although there is a lot to like in the card, two horses look like standouts to me.

Courageous Cat and Red Desire both look super and likely to be a fair price.  Both had, in my view, perfect preps as their 4 year old debuts.  Replicating the preps should be good enough, but each has license to move forward in their second start as a 4 year old which would make them very hard to beat.  Red Desire has a race over the surface and distance and seemed to take to it very well.  Love that she gets 4 lbs from them all.

Good luck everybody.

[RICH]

couple of standouts for me on TG

golden sword, furthest land, rocket man

good luck

[Lost Cause]

RICH Wrote:
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> couple of standouts for me on TG
>
> golden sword, furthest land, rocket man
>
> good luck


I would add Musir to that list even with all the weight..

[tomath2o]

\"The Dubai Racing Club reported this morning that Eric Libaud-trainee Vision D’Etat, winner of the Hong Kong Cup (G1), has passed a veterinary inspection and will run in the Dubai World Cup (G1).  The same situation played out at Sha Tin when his fitness was called into question the day before the race, which he eventually won of the progressive Collection. \"

dubairacenight.com

It\'s 107 degrees there, may have an impact on Euro, US shippers....

[colt]

Does anybody know if it is a relevant handicapping factor whether the tapeta is ft or st?
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There is no difference in the designation ST/FT (Syn track vs Fast track) for synthetic tracks.  It\'s simply the host track preferred nomenclature, but they are identical designation.  In fact, most syn in the USA initially had no official track designation.

[Rick B.]

colt Wrote:
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> Does anybody know if it is a relevant handicapping
> factor whether the tapeta is ft or st?

Don\'t know about those, unless \"ft\" means \"fake track\".

These are the designations I use:

dr: dry
wx: waxy
wd: wet dog (smells like)
sh: shredded condoms
721: \"7 strands, wrapped around 2, surrounded by 1\"

[SoCalMan2]

colt Wrote:
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> Does anybody know if it is a relevant handicapping
> factor whether the tapeta is ft or st?
> ---------------------
> There is no difference in the designation ST/FT
> (Syn track vs Fast track) for synthetic tracks.
> It\'s simply the host track preferred nomenclature,
> but they are identical designation.  In fact, most
> syn in the USA initially had no official track
> designation.

Am curious then, why both the DRF and thorograph refer to Meydan for different races sometimes as \"ft\" and sometimes as \"st.\"  One would think if they are the identical surface, they would be referred to identically.

[TGAB]

I can\'t speak for the DRF but at TG we get foreign data from Equibase which gathers them from individual countries and makes it conform to their specs for transmittal to US customers such as ourselves. But it\'s not their job to check and ensure the accuracy of all foreign data--it is their job to do that with thoroughbred racing data in North America. So sometimes the track info for surface they get may be miscoded as dirt when it should be synthetic. Since we know Meydan is synthetic we output it with a synthetic marker to make sure it\'s denoted as such when miscoded but we don\'t change the track condition, another field. We didn\'t think to change that. What\'s most important is that the track surface is designated properly.

[Leamas57]

I am surprised that Furthest Land isn\'t getting more respect. I think he and RK could both make the super or tri.

Leamas.

[ROBERT49]

any idea which sites will post payoffs and charts for the Meydan races. very interested in seeing the payoff on the exacta and tri in the world cup. thx.

[Lost Cause]

Here ya go..This is from Twinspires


$1.00 Exacta 5-7  $527.40
$1.00 Trifecta 5-7-1  $4195.70
$1.00 Superfecta 5-7-1-4  $32248.10
$1.00 Double 14/5  $311.40
$1.00 Pick-3 7/14/5 3 of 3 $115723.30
$1.00 Pick-6 4/9/7/7/14/5 4 of 6 $13570.90

[jack72906]

EX       5-7      527.40
TRI      5-7-1    4195.70
SUPER    5-7-1-4  32,248.10
Pick3    7-14-5   115,723.30

[sekrah]

Don\'t you love it when you use 8 horses and none hit the f\'cking board?

[MonmouthGuy]

Richard\'s Kid and Furthest Land each seemed to get extraordinary wide trips (maybe 5W?).

I think some of that was because of all of the bunching caused by the crawling pace, but definitely not GGs best ride.

 Oh well.

[Rick B.]

bobphilo Wrote:
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> I\'m looking forward to an exciting race with some
> of the worlds best horses flying over the great
> new Tapeta surface.

Pretty exciting to see the bettors flummoxed again by the fake stuff, but on a *different* continent, no?