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TreadHead

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2010, 03:28:33 PM »
You are on fire brah!  Keep going pls  (I like 2 and 9 here)

Ill-bred

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Re: Carryovers at Churchill
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2010, 04:17:16 PM »
I hope ROBERT49\'s 8 horse wins here in the last leg of the pick 4, cuz I tried (unsuccessfully) to beat Baffert, and now the 8 is my only money maker.

Live to 1 8 10 12 in p4...

sekrah

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2010, 04:35:13 AM »
I needed the 1, 7, or 12 in the last leg.   Beaten by a Foley debuter.  What a boner.

Rick B.

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2010, 02:29:46 PM »
sekrah Wrote:
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> Beaten by a Foley debuter.

Not just a \"Foley debuter\".

A non-descript, sold-for-$1000-as-a-yearling Illinois-bred Foley debuter. A horse you might not give a 2nd look if he were debuting in a MCL3500 at Beulah.

134 P6 tickets were sold with this horse -- and the other five winners -- on board. 134!!

Forget more stringent testing of racehorses -- I want these winning Pick 6 bettors to be piss-tested, immediately.

Then -- I want whatever they are using.

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2010, 03:07:19 PM »
Rick B. Wrote:
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> sekrah Wrote:
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> > Beaten by a Foley debuter.
>
> Not just a \"Foley debuter\".
>
> A non-descript, sold-for-$1000-as-a-yearling
> Illinois-bred Foley debuter. A horse you might not
> give a 2nd look if he were debuting in a MCL3500
> at Beulah.
>
> 134 P6 tickets were sold with this horse -- and
> the other five winners -- on board. 134!!
>
> Forget more stringent testing of racehorses -- I
> want these winning Pick 6 bettors to be
> piss-tested, immediately.
>
> Then -- I want whatever they are using.


That horse had to be played in that field..  He was working really well and Julien was up.  The biggest thing was who he was running with ....a bunch of proven losers. He doesn\'t know how much they paid for him.

Rick B.

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2010, 04:07:31 PM »
Lost Cause Wrote:
 
> That horse had to be played in that field..  He
> was working really well and Julien was up.  The
> biggest thing was who he was running with ....a
> bunch of proven losers. He doesn\'t know how much
> they paid for him.

You could be right, but it\'s not like they sent it in on the win pool; if he came back, like, $6.00 to win, I\'d say, \"OK, the whole world knew, and I simply didn\'t see it.\"

Another possibility is the one that a friend of mine sent to me after reading my previous post -- that this race was everyone\'s \"head scratcher\", and it was most likely the big \"spread / buy\" race, on many, many tickets.
 
Wouldn\'t it be great to see how the winning tickets were constructed? (Yeah -- \"Over my dead body\", some of you are shouting right now. Like asking for the Coca-Cola recipe.)

sekrah

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2010, 04:45:38 PM »
Can\'t use every horse in the race.   I didn\'t play a huge ticket.. 3x2x1x1x2x3, but I found it tough to throw this one in.   The workout log doesn\'t look particularly impressive to me.   Something went amiss with him back March.   Foley has had only 4 of his last 20 debuters run figs fast enough to win here and this one wasn\'t exactly impressively bred.

If I were to take a 4th in that race it probably would of definently been the 3.  But if I were to increase my ticket size anymore, it probably would have been on a different leg.

Tough race.

Rick B.

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2010, 06:33:06 PM »
sekrah Wrote:
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> Can\'t use every horse in the race.   I didn\'t play
> a huge ticket.. 3x2x1x1x2x3,

Can\'t use every horse in the race...or didn\'t want to?

3x2x1x1x2x12 = 144 combos, or $288.

I would have loved to have come up with a ticket that small, that I felt had a real shot.

Not to bicker...everyone\'s risk tolerance is different, but the more I \"Monday Morning QB\" this one, the more it looks like a fair number of people bought the finale.

sekrah

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2010, 07:02:14 PM »
I\'m not a big Pick 6 guy.   I only played because of the huge carryover, I might have took a shot at no more than a half-dozen Pick 6s all of last year.   I\'ll go after large pick 4 carryovers (and $$ added) aggressively, but my main style is finding races with bombers who can hit the board and attacking the trifectas.  Like in the 7th race yesterday with the 8.

bellsbendboy

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Re: Churchill Thursday carryovers
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2010, 08:47:53 AM »
I did not play the sequence however I looked at the charts.  Foley, who has won a bazillion (over 300) races at Churchill trained Champali the sire of the winner.  The dam had a decent future for Harvey Vanier a number of years back before getting hurt and her dam was a stakeswinner.

The horse worked in 47 and change at the Fairgrounds so he could run at least a bit.  Tough to take a firsttimer at the bottom, and without looking at the others, this gelding was at least very possible.